Kantara FIWG Teleconference 

Date and Time




  1. Administrative - roll call :  Minutes from Jan 10 ;Election of Officers
  2. FEDLab SAML tests update
  3. Federated Interop patterns
  4. Kantara, OIX and other meta-data aggregator projects.
  5. Your agenda items


1. Administrative - roll call


2. FEDLab SAML test harness update - -
 3. Federated Interop Patterns

The group discussed RH's Fed Interop patterns doc submitted and had got considerable comment:


Matt: Need a Privacy Layer

Keith: Need a Attribute Authority/Provider (in SAML Attribute Query) Actor as a sub set of IdP actor

Matt: Or is it FO-FO? (John) It is generically called Attribute Provider rather than Attribute Authority.

?: What about a Consent Service Provider as an additional Actor?

Keith: Add Discovery Service as a new Actor

Rainer: Rename Legal to Legal and Contractual Layer for clarity

4.  Kantara, OIX and other meta-data aggregator projects

Matt: PKI vs meta data - pros and cons. Typically PKI is favored by govt and MD is favored by Higher Ed. Mapping is hard and enforces arbitrary decisions like MD at LoA 1,2,3 but not 4.  PKI at LoA 3.5 and 4.

?: Where is Kantara and OIX in the Trust Framework business. (John): Kantara is not a federation in that it doesn't necessarily represent those that are certified by it. OIX is a kind of federation because its members are represented. But Certification not done at OIX (beyond LoA1)


7. Your Agenda items

None raised..and no more call time left.

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