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Date

2019-02-21

Status of Minutes

DRAFT

Approved at: <<Insert link to minutes showing approval>>

Attendees

Voting

  • Jim Pasquale
  • Oscar Santolalla
  • Paul Knowles


Non-Voting

  • Sneha Ved
  • Sal D'Agostino
  • Colin Wallis
  • Lisa LeVasseur
  • Julie Maas
  • Mark Lizar


Regrets

  • David Turner


Quorum Status


Meeting was <<<>>> quorate


Voting participants


Participant Roster (2016) - Quorum is 6 of 11 as of 2018-11-19

 Jim Pasquale (C), John Wunderlich (VC), Andrew Hughes (VC), Oscar Santolalla, Richard Gomer, Paul Knowles, Samantha Zirkin

Discussion Items

Time

Item

Who

Notes

4 mins
  • Roll call
  • Agenda bashing
  • Deferred: Status: Wiki refresh work
  • Deferred: Status: Distribution-version of slide deck describing the work here (consent receipt today → personal data processing receipt tomorrow - or whatever we decide)
  • Discuss EIC demo and scheduling
  • Discuss proposal for specification extension approach



5 min
  • Organization updates
All

Please review these blogs offline for current status on Kantara and all the DG/WG:

There is a wiki page that will hold all the known implementations of Consent Receipts - Please update the page or inform Jim, or John, or Andrew of your implementation.

  • TIIME, Vienna, February
  • EIC, Munich, May
  • Identiverse, Washington, June
  • MyData NGI Next Generation Trust

Dativa is developing an innovation hub around consent and CR



10 minProduct roadmap for the demoAll
  • Target is EIC May 2019

Here's the project page for the "Demo v2"

Go to the demo v2 page for the breakdown of roles and functions for 2019-02-21 call

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THESE NOTES ARE FROM 2019-01-31 CALL AND ARE DIRECT-EDIT-UPDATED FROM 2019-02-07 CALL


Andrew's personal opinion on what to highlight:

  • The fact that giving the person tools necessary for them to keep records (the 'receipts') about their data controller & personal data processing interactions is a new thing in the world
  • The ability for the person to take action because they have these records in their possession - the Privacy Control Panel
  • The fact that interoperability standards allow many products to work in an 'ecosystem' way
  • Even if the audience does not believe that the lawful basis of consent will become a mainstream thing, the person-side record keeping idea is a good one that has broad applicability

Comments:

  • This opens the door to ongoing management of the relationship by the person with the data controller/other
  • The consent receipt is also a Notice
  • People have an independent record of the interaction in the receipt
  • Have hard receipts gone away because they are viewed as 'too much friction'? Is this dangerous?


Decisions needed:

  • The specific set of user stories we want to showcase - what is the "Consent Journey" of the person?
  • The roles that each product will cover in the demo



Comments (2019-02-14):

Comments (2019-02-07):


Comments (2019-01-31):

  • The discrete functions need to be identified
  • Receipt issuers should be enrolled in advance (data controller should be known)
  • Can we show multiple wallets that hold receipts?
  • Should build on the flow of the Demo v1 - person does stuff, gets receipts, sees them, acts on them
  • Is the 'wallet' (a.k.a. the receipt storage location) singular or multiple?
    • Sphere app can display receipts from their own storage locations
    • Digi.me only shows receipts within their system
      • Jim is pushing engineering towards the idea that the 'control panel' should be able to work on receipts in other app storage locations
  • Passing control over a receipt (to act on a receipt and manage it going forward) to a 3rd party breaks the security concept of digi.me and Sphere's apps
    • Exporting a receipt is possible, but action on the exported receipt might require a redirect back into the Sphere app
    • This is probably the same with all app ecosystems
  • Jan - looking at the topic of using the receipt as a data schema but also using the universal namespace/identifiers (a.k.a. Decentralized Identifiers) to reference the entities and object might allow for broader interoperability
  • Peter: we lack the protocols for operations on the receipts themselves - maybe do this in Kantara
  • Jan - last week call - Paul and Jan presented on the Hyperledger Indy work for interop
  • Remember that we are limited by what exists today - a list of JSON files
    • The 'take action' function might be a simple "open URL in the receipt issuer's app"
  • Action: Andrew to draw an information flow diagram for discussion for the demo
  • Action: ALL - to think about the functionality that your products can do today in light of the "Privacy Control Panel" idea - we will try to do a heat map to try to sort out role assignments and find gaps


20 minApproach to "extension kit"Mark

I have start a wiki page for working on a consent receipt extension and was thinking of trying to work on the document outline during the call tomorrow and just get a basic set of steps for the work effort to complete a simple scope. . 

1. Draft & Review extension Outline 
2. Walk through use of extension 
3. Recommend extension

Here is the link - https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=104600510

Meeting notes

  • Approach to mapping the CR to a specific law/regulation and ensuring that the terms/fields are correct for the specific law
    • Then, replacing the terms in the specification to create a law-specific specification
  • Try this out on CFR 42 - a healthcare regulation in US that requires explicit consent - on top if HIPPA - which did not cover explicit consent
    • HIPPA has a 'burden of proof' requirement
  • Discussion about interoperability between domains, parsing and
DeferredSpecification update approach

See a flowchart version of this here:

https://share.mindmanager.com/#publish/b-DWOcuKGnVY1PXBKXTpL0-DQOeqmZMGfGUAPiC5


5 minAOBSneha
  • Update from Sphere Identity about ID4D challenge
    • "How could an identity solution work for 1 Billion people"



Next meeting

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