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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Sorry to miss call.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Eve, Thomas, do you want to schedule call to complete use case task?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> wg-uma-bounces@kantarainitiative.org [mailto:wg-uma-bounces@kantarainitiative.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Eve Maler<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, July 27, 2012 7:42 PM<br><b>To:</b> WG UMA<br><b>Subject:</b> [WG-UMA] Draft minutes of UMA telecon 2012-07-26<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2012-07-26">http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2012-07-26</a><o:p></o:p></p><div><h3 style='mso-margin-top-alt:15.75pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:3.0pt;margin-left:0in;background:white' id=UMAtelecon2012-07-26-Minutes><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5A8D93'>Minutes<o:p></o:p></span></h3><h4 style='mso-margin-top-alt:15.75pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:3.0pt;margin-left:0in;background:white' id=UMAtelecon2012-07-26-NewAIsummary><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5A8D93'>New AI summary<o:p></o:p></span></h4><p style='margin-bottom:7.5pt;line-height:12.75pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>AI: Eve: Look into the current UMA logo's trademark status and how logos could be used for positively declaring UMA conformance.<o:p></o:p></span></p><h4 style='mso-margin-top-alt:15.75pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:3.0pt;margin-left:0in;background:white' id=UMAtelecon2012-07-26-Rollcall><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5A8D93'><a href="http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/Participant+Roster"><span style='color:#5A8D93'>Roll call</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></h4><p style='margin-bottom:7.5pt;line-height:12.75pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Quorum was not reached.<o:p></o:p></span></p><h4 style='mso-margin-top-alt:15.75pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:3.0pt;margin-left:0in;background:white' id="UMAtelecon2012-07-26-Approveminutesof&nbsp;2012-07-19&nbsp;meeting"><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5A8D93'>Approve minutes of&nbsp;<a href="http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2012-07-19"><span style='color:#5A8D93'>2012-07-19</span></a>&nbsp;meeting<o:p></o:p></span></h4><p style='margin-bottom:7.5pt;line-height:12.75pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Deferred due to lack of quorum.<o:p></o:p></span></p><h4 style='mso-margin-top-alt:15.75pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:3.0pt;margin-left:0in;background:white' id="UMAtelecon2012-07-26-AI&nbsp;review"><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5A8D93'><a href="http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/Meetings+and+Minutes"><span style='color:#5A8D93'>AI</span></a>&nbsp;review<o:p></o:p></span></h4><div style='margin-bottom:7.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:12.75pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 style='border-collapse:collapse'><tr><td valign=top style='border:solid #DDDDDD 1.0pt;padding:3.75pt 5.25pt 3.75pt 5.25pt;min-width: 0.6em'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:13.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'><a href="http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+F2F+2012-02-02"><span style='color:#5A8D93'>2012-02-02-4</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></td><td valign=top style='border:solid #DDDDDD 1.0pt;border-left:none;padding:3.75pt 5.25pt 3.75pt 5.25pt;min-width: 0.6em'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:13.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Thomas, Sal, Eve<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></td><td valign=top style='border:solid #DDDDDD 1.0pt;border-left:none;padding:3.75pt 5.25pt 3.75pt 5.25pt;min-width: 0.6em'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:13.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Open<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></td><td valign=top style='border:solid #DDDDDD 1.0pt;border-left:none;padding:3.75pt 5.25pt 3.75pt 5.25pt;min-width: 0.6em'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:13.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Capture business-oriented use cases.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></td><td valign=top style='border:solid #DDDDDD 1.0pt;border-left:none;padding:3.75pt 5.25pt 3.75pt 5.25pt;min-width: 0.6em'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:13.0pt'><strong><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Still open. Desperately needs to be done! In fact, we need to translate our use cases into the chosen design flows. We'd talked about producing an &quot;UMA for Enterprise&quot; document, and perhaps we should complement it with an &quot;UMA for Individuals&quot; doc.</span></strong><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></td></tr><tr><td valign=top style='border:solid #DDDDDD 1.0pt;border-top:none;padding:3.75pt 5.25pt 3.75pt 5.25pt;min-width: 0.6em'><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:13.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>2012-07-12<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td valign=top style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #DDDDDD 1.0pt;border-right:solid #DDDDDD 1.0pt;padding:3.75pt 5.25pt 3.75pt 5.25pt;min-width: 0.6em'><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:13.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Eve<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td valign=top style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #DDDDDD 1.0pt;border-right:solid #DDDDDD 1.0pt;padding:3.75pt 5.25pt 3.75pt 5.25pt;min-width: 0.6em'><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:13.0pt'><strong><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Closed</span></strong><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td valign=top style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #DDDDDD 1.0pt;border-right:solid #DDDDDD 1.0pt;padding:3.75pt 5.25pt 3.75pt 5.25pt;min-width: 0.6em'><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:13.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Work on Binding Obligations comments.<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td valign=top style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #DDDDDD 1.0pt;border-right:solid #DDDDDD 1.0pt;padding:3.75pt 5.25pt 3.75pt 5.25pt;min-width: 0.6em'><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:13.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr><tr><td valign=top style='border:solid #DDDDDD 1.0pt;border-top:none;padding:3.75pt 5.25pt 3.75pt 5.25pt;min-width: 0.6em'><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:13.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'><a href="http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2012-07-19"><span style='color:#5A8D93'>2012-07-19-1</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td valign=top style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #DDDDDD 1.0pt;border-right:solid #DDDDDD 1.0pt;padding:3.75pt 5.25pt 3.75pt 5.25pt;min-width: 0.6em'><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:13.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Thomas<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td valign=top style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #DDDDDD 1.0pt;border-right:solid #DDDDDD 1.0pt;padding:3.75pt 5.25pt 3.75pt 5.25pt;min-width: 0.6em'><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:13.0pt'><strong><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Closed</span></strong><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td valign=top style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #DDDDDD 1.0pt;border-right:solid #DDDDDD 1.0pt;padding:3.75pt 5.25pt 3.75pt 5.25pt;min-width: 0.6em'><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:13.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Work on issue #61 editorial instructions.<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td valign=top style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #DDDDDD 1.0pt;border-right:solid #DDDDDD 1.0pt;padding:3.75pt 5.25pt 3.75pt 5.25pt;min-width: 0.6em'><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:13.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>In progress.<o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr><tr><td valign=top style='border:solid #DDDDDD 1.0pt;border-top:none;padding:3.75pt 5.25pt 3.75pt 5.25pt;min-width: 0.6em'><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:13.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'><a href="http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2012-07-19"><span style='color:#5A8D93'>2012-07-19-2</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td valign=top style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #DDDDDD 1.0pt;border-right:solid #DDDDDD 1.0pt;padding:3.75pt 5.25pt 3.75pt 5.25pt;min-width: 0.6em'><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:13.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Domenico<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td valign=top style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #DDDDDD 1.0pt;border-right:solid #DDDDDD 1.0pt;padding:3.75pt 5.25pt 3.75pt 5.25pt;min-width: 0.6em'><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:13.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Open<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td valign=top style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #DDDDDD 1.0pt;border-right:solid #DDDDDD 1.0pt;padding:3.75pt 5.25pt 3.75pt 5.25pt;min-width: 0.6em'><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:13.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Propose issue #57 &quot;promissory claims&quot; profile.<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td valign=top style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #DDDDDD 1.0pt;border-right:solid #DDDDDD 1.0pt;padding:3.75pt 5.25pt 3.75pt 5.25pt;min-width: 0.6em'><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:13.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>This might be layered on top of the OpenID Connect claim profile.&nbsp;<strong>In progress. Domenico has published a diagram showing how claims can be placed into a taxonomy. Eve suggests refining it to assume that the &quot;requesting party&quot; is always the AM, since &quot;promissory claims&quot; would be used in authorization.</strong><o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr><tr><td valign=top style='border:solid #DDDDDD 1.0pt;border-top:none;padding:3.75pt 5.25pt 3.75pt 5.25pt;min-width: 0.6em'><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:13.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'><a href="http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2012-07-19"><span style='color:#5A8D93'>2012-07-19-3</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td valign=top style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #DDDDDD 1.0pt;border-right:solid #DDDDDD 1.0pt;padding:3.75pt 5.25pt 3.75pt 5.25pt;min-width: 0.6em'><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:13.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Eve<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td valign=top style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #DDDDDD 1.0pt;border-right:solid #DDDDDD 1.0pt;padding:3.75pt 5.25pt 3.75pt 5.25pt;min-width: 0.6em'><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:13.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Open<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td valign=top style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #DDDDDD 1.0pt;border-right:solid #DDDDDD 1.0pt;padding:3.75pt 5.25pt 3.75pt 5.25pt;min-width: 0.6em'><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:13.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Finally put feature tests on the OSIS wiki.<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td valign=top style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #DDDDDD 1.0pt;border-right:solid #DDDDDD 1.0pt;padding:3.75pt 5.25pt 3.75pt 5.25pt;min-width: 0.6em'><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:13.0pt'><strong><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>In progress. Eve's forthcoming OSIS edits will correspond nicely to Thomas's issue #61 edits. She's had some trouble with the wiki and is getting more help from Pam. In the meantime, she's writing up machine-readable feature tests offline.</span></strong><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr></table><h4 style='mso-margin-top-alt:15.75pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:3.0pt;margin-left:0in;background:white' id=UMAtelecon2012-07-26-DiscussionreincubationphaseofUMA><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5A8D93'>Discussion re &quot;incubation phase&quot; of UMA<o:p></o:p></span></h4><p style='margin-bottom:7.5pt;line-height:12.75pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>We're rapidly approach the third anniversary of this WG's launch! And Kantara currently going through an effort to examine how its mission should be refined. We once again did a compare/contrast exercise on the various organizations where technical specs can be standardized.<br><br>Does UMA have &quot;competition&quot; in the space? We believe not, among standards. There are a number of proprietary and private efforts that seem to have an &quot;UMA-shaped&quot; problem space, and there's at least some interest among them to try UMA; among them, there has been some interest in OASIS as an eventual home (vs. IETF). If speed is important in encouraging adoption and experimentation, then OASIS as a new home seems to be an attractive possibility. Also, OASIS is comfortable to European audiences. Kantara's connection to trust frameworks is an interesting connection for us, and also, Dazza is working on a new OASIS group that is meant to standardize trust-framework-style &quot;system rules&quot;, which would have worldwide implications.<br><br>For now, until we can discuss this in quorum and until we feel compelled to make a change, once again we'll stick with the status quo.<o:p></o:p></span></p><h4 style='mso-margin-top-alt:15.75pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:3.0pt;margin-left:0in;background:white' id=UMAtelecon2012-07-26-BindingObligationsnextsteps><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5A8D93'>Binding Obligations next steps<o:p></o:p></span></h4><p style='margin-bottom:7.5pt;line-height:12.75pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Hasan may be working on a state diagram that reflects these obligations. Eve will experiment with adding clause annotations to the swimlane diagrams.<br><br>Being a &quot;non-certified&quot; UMA participant means that expectations should be pretty low. Are the Binding Obs a low enough bar? We want to be sure they're reasonable for &quot;non-certified&quot; deployers. Certification, circles of trust, and the rest of it would come into play in higher-order contracts (and maybe even laws).<br><br>Does UMA's logo have a trademark? We should resurrect this topic.<o:p></o:p></span></p><h3 style='mso-margin-top-alt:15.75pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:3.0pt;margin-left:0in;background:white' id=UMAtelecon2012-07-26-Attendees><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5A8D93'>Attendees<o:p></o:p></span></h3><p style='margin-bottom:7.5pt;line-height:12.75pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>As of 12 July 2012 (pre-meeting), quorum is 6 of 11.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:0in;text-indent:-.25in;line-height:13.0pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo1;background:white'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>1.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Catalano, Domenico<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:0in;text-indent:-.25in;line-height:13.0pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo1;background:white'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>2.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Hardjono, Thomas<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:0in;text-indent:-.25in;line-height:13.0pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo1;background:white'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>3.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Maler, Eve<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:0in;text-indent:-.25in;line-height:13.0pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo1;background:white'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>4.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Mohammed, Alam<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin-bottom:7.5pt;line-height:12.75pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Non-voting participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:0in;text-indent:-.25in;line-height:13.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2;background:white'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&middot;<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Hughes, Andrew<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:0in;text-indent:-.25in;line-height:13.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2;background:white'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&middot;<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Lizar, Mark<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin-bottom:7.5pt;line-height:12.75pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Regrets:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:0in;text-indent:-.25in;line-height:13.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3;background:white'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&middot;<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Machulak, Maciej<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:0in;text-indent:-.25in;line-height:13.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3;background:white'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&middot;<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Moren, Lukasz<o:p></o:p></span></p><h3 style='mso-margin-top-alt:15.75pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:3.0pt;margin-left:0in;background:white' id=UMAtelecon2012-07-26-NextMeetings><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5A8D93'>Next Meetings<o:p></o:p></span></h3><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:0in;text-indent:-.25in;line-height:13.0pt;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo4;background:white'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&middot;<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>WG telecon on Thursday, 2 August 2012, at 9am PT (<a href="http://timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=8&amp;day=2&amp;year=2012&amp;hour=16&amp;min=0&amp;sec=0&amp;p1=0&amp;sort=2"><span style='color:#5A8D93'>time chart</span></a>)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:0in;text-indent:-.25in;line-height:13.0pt;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo4;background:white'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&middot;<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>WG telecon on Thursday, 9 August 2012, at 9am PT (<a href="http://timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=8&amp;day=9&amp;year=2012&amp;hour=16&amp;min=0&amp;sec=0&amp;p1=0&amp;sort=2"><span style='color:#5A8D93'>time chart</span></a>) - likely Eve regrets<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>Eve Maler &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<a href="http://www.xmlgrrl.com/blog">http://www.xmlgrrl.com/blog</a><br>+1 425 345 6756 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; <a href="http://www.twitter.com/xmlgrrl">http://www.twitter.com/xmlgrrl</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div></div></body></html>