[Wg-uma] URGENT Re: Call for votes: approval of August meeting minutes

Christian Scholz cs at comlounge.net
Thu Sep 3 11:02:33 PDT 2009


As only the people attending a call can really make a proper decision  
why can't we simply limit the group of people allowed to vote for this  
particular vote to these who have been on the call?

-- Christian


Am 03.09.2009 um 19:45 schrieb Eve Maler:

> In today's call, we discussed a technicality regarding a specific  
> issue with electronic ballots on minutes approval.  If you weren't  
> at the meeting, how can you vote on whether the minutes accurately  
> reflect what got done?  This is a fair question!
>
> I have confirmed that our tentative interpretation discussed in the  
> meeting is CORRECT according to Section 6.2 of the Operating  
> Procedures:
>
> http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/download/attachments/2293776/Kantara+Initiative+Operating+Procedures+_V1.0_+2009-04-03.pdf?version=1
>
> Namely, if you return a ballot indicating that you ABSTAIN on that  
> ballot, it counts towards the minimum response level necessary to  
> consider the ballot valid.
>
> Now, since the meetings corresponding to the minutes we are trying  
> to approve did not reach quorum, if everyone who didn't attend those  
> meetings votes ABSTAIN, we still won't get them accepted, and I may  
> have to redo the ballot later after I change some people's status to  
> non-voting.
>
> It's entirely up to you, but if you weren't present at the meetings  
> in question, but do feel comfortable accepting them as the true  
> record of the group's discussion, you can still vote YES -- as some  
> people have chosen to do already.  I will report on the results and  
> next steps, whatever they are, after the ballot closes tonight.
>
> Thanks for your attention!
>
> 	Eve
> 	(still trying, but failing, to remove bureaucracy from our group's  
> work :-)
>
> On 1 Sep 2009, at 1:29 PM, Eve Maler wrote:
>
>> A reminder: Please review the minutes, and please vote.
>>
>> Note that in Kantara, the chair has discretion to manage quorum  
>> requirements in the following way:
>>
>> http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/download/attachments/2293776/Kantara+Initiative+Operating+Procedures+_V1.0_+2009-04-03.pdf?version=1
>>
>> From Section 3.7:
>>
>> "All Participants present at a WG meeting are voting members of the  
>> WG.	For the purpose of maintaining a reasonable ability to achieve  
>> Quorum, any Participant in a WG who fails to attend two consecutive  
>> meetings of the WG may, at the discretion of the Chair, be re- 
>> classified as a non-voting member. Voting member status may be  
>> reacquired by attending a meeting of the WG. In the case of an  
>> electronic vote of the WG, if the electronic vote occurs while a  
>> Participant is in non-voting status, the Participant may not vote  
>> in that electronic vote."
>>
>> I may have to resort to this after this ballot closes, if the  
>> response has been very low.  If you want to retain list posting  
>> rights (that is, exercise your right to contribute IP according to  
>> the group participation agreement you filled out) but have no  
>> intention of attending any meetings or voting in electronic  
>> ballots, feel free to let me know offline that you're a serial non- 
>> voter. :-)
>>
>> 	Eve
>>
>> On 27 Aug 2009, at 4:44 PM, Eve Maler wrote:
>>
>>> This email contains four ballots for your consideration, all  
>>> dealing with approving the minutes of our first month's worth of  
>>> meetings.  Since we have a large number of group participants but  
>>> not everyone can make it to all of the telecons, I urge everyone  
>>> who is on our roster:
>>>
>>> http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/Participant+Roster
>>>
>>> ...to take this opportunity to review the minutes and ensure they  
>>> are in order.  (Note: Anyone who joins the group after this mail  
>>> hits the archives can't vote on these ballots.)
>>>
>>> Each ballot requires a simple majority (15 of 28) to pass.  Please  
>>> reply, to the list or to me directly, with your votes; if you vote  
>>> NO in any case, please supply a rationale to facilitate  
>>> resolution.  The deadline is Thursday, 3 Sep 2009, 23:59 UTC  
>>> (4:59pm U.S. Pacific time):
>>>
>>> http://timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=9&day=3&year=2009&hour=23&min=59&sec=0
>>>
>>> 1. Do you approve the minutes of UMA telecon 2009-08-06?
>>> http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2009-08-06
>>>
>>> YES or NO?
>>>
>>> 2. Do you approve the minutes of UMA telecon 2009-08-13?
>>> http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2009-08-13
>>>
>>> YES or NO?
>>>
>>> 3. Do you approve the minutes of UMA telecon 2009-08-20?
>>> http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2009-08-20+%28quorate%29
>>>
>>> YES or NO?
>>>
>>> 4. Do you approve the minutes of UMA telecon 2009-08-27?
>>> http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2009-08-27+%28focus%29
>>>
>>> YES or NO?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> 	Eve
>
> Eve Maler
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> http://www.xmlgrrl.com/blog
>
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