[Wg-p3] FW: P3 Call to Action: Strategic Focus

Iain Henderson iain.henderson at mydex.org
Mon Sep 28 05:19:16 PDT 2009

Hi Robin,

I think the Privacy Module looks fine, but I would also like to see  
some work being done 'on the individual side', as I think that is  
where most innovation and some potential breakthroughs are going to  
happen over the next few years.

Simplistically you could say this is about Privacy Enhancing  
Technologies moving to the next level (e.g. selective disclosure via  
information cards), and moving beyond just technology to include  
process, policy and commercial model considerations. Clearly Project  
VRM and the volunteered personal information work are in this space,  
so i'm happy to contribute in those areas.

Hope that helps.


On 25 Sep 2009, at 09:01, Robin Wilton wrote:

> Thanks Colin -
> I agree: a P3WG analysis of (and comments on) those SC27 WG5  
> documents would be a win-win;
> - it would help establish us as a credible, active and visible group  
> in the broader community;
> - it would help us avoid re-inventing material for an IAF Privacy  
> Module, if the work has already been done.
> Some weeks ago I circulated to P3WG some draft notes on the idea of  
> the Privacy Module. As the group now has quite a few more members, I  
> attach a further copy of those notes and would again welcome  
> members' review and comment. The document is not long - just a  
> couple of pages and some diagrams - so please, everyone, take a few  
> moments to read and respond.
> With best wishes,
> Robin
> On Fri, 25 Sep 2009 19:49 +1200, "Colin Wallis" <colin_wallis at hotmail.com 
> > wrote:
>> Thanks Jeff
>> Certainly 'designed - in' privacy is often talked about a heck of a  
>> lot harder to do.
>> There was some work started in Liberty around Privacy assurance -  
>> to map to the Idebntity assurance Framework which is well on its  
>> way to wide acceptance.
>> Likewise, privacy needs to be designed into architectures. I'm on  
>> the ISO SC27 WG5 which has both the Privacy Framework (29100) and  
>> Privacy Reference Architecture (29101) under its wing.  While the  
>> former is through to 1st CD constributions for both are thin on the  
>> ground.  This group could do worse than make a major effort to  
>> submit comments to those  (hopefully with everyone having a broadly  
>> aligned view of the approach). Then you have taken the high ground.
>> Cheers
>> Colin
>> (observer)
>> Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 13:47:15 -0400
>> From: stollman.j at gmail.com
>> To: wg-p3 at kantarainitiative.org
>> Subject: [Wg-p3] P3 Call to Action: Strategic Focus
>> All,
>> At this week's telecon, Susan Landau made the insightful  
>> observation that as P3 bootstraps itself into operation, we have  
>> focused primarily on tactical reaction to government actions  
>> (primarily in the US).  We have not established our own strategic  
>> agenda.
>> In order to transform ourselves from tactical fire-fighting to a  
>> respected leadership force in Privacy, we need to formulate our  
>> strategic agenda.
>> This will be a key topic on our next call (next Thursday 01 OCT).  
>> To get the most out of that discussion I believe it would be best  
>> to begin the discussion in advance.  I invite all members (active  
>> and observer) to submit your thoughts and goals via email through  
>> the P3wg distribution list <wg-p3 at kantarainitiative.org> and  
>> initiate discussions.
>> Thank you for your participation.
>> Jeff
>> Acting Vice-chairman, Privacy and Public Policy working group
>> -- 
>> Jeff Stollman
>> stollman.j at gmail.com
>> 1 202.683.8699
>> Find someone to snuggle up with Brrr... its getting cold out there
> Robin Wilton
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