[Wg-p3] Wg-p3 Digest, Vol 2, Issue 16

Robin Wilton futureidentity at fastmail.fm
Mon Aug 17 06:50:31 PDT 2009


And from my (admittedly bigoted) perspective, this reflects my
view that the citizen/data-subject is currently rather
under-represented in the debate. I think P3WG and its siblings
(especially Identity Assurance and the VPI strands) are well
placed to help correct that, if we pool our expertise sensibly.


On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 14:32 +0100, "Richard Baker-Donnelly"
<richard at baker-donnelly.org> wrote:


I think it comes down to working through the use cases, for VPI I
suspect you have a better grasp of what this might look like in
the future.  My immediate concern was breaking the impression
that everything was running in lock step tied to the highest
level of assurance.  If we cannot break that thinking - the
complexity that VPI requires is even further away.

I was also thinking about this from the enterprise and
collaborative community aspects where elements might be easier to
get your head around.

In terms of the consumer modelling the challenge is going to be
getting a user interface that allows people to understand what is
going on and the implications of their actions and why systems
that are working to protect their privacy make certain choices.


From: Iain Henderson [mailto:iain.henderson at mydex.org]
Sent: 17 August 2009 14:19
To: Richard Baker-Donnelly
Cc: wg-p3 at kantarainitiative.org
Subject: Re: [Wg-p3] Wg-p3 Digest, Vol 2, Issue 16

  Hi Richard - agreed on 'As we move to VPI (Volunteered
  Personal Information) Systems the ability to
  represent and and understand the rules by which a *granular*
  LOA can be used
  and manipulated will become increasingly important.'.

On the wider LOA debate, I have a view that this issue would be
best addressed by going right back to basics and looking at
things from the individuals needs rather than the organisations
(which are ultimately a by-product of the individuals needs). I
can imagine icons and a range of simple explanations for a
relatively small number of 'service access options'. Tough as
that would be, I think it is architecturally more sound, and
ultimately an awful lot easier than getting standardisation
across (even within) organisations far less geographies.


I'd expect to get into that line of thinking in the proposed
consumer research if we get that moving.


Robin Wilton

Director, Future Identity
Director of Privacy and Public Policy, Liberty Alliance

+44 (0)705 005 2931
Structured consulting on digital identity, privacy and public policy
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