[Wg-p3] Prep For Privacy Workshop in Washington DC - August 10

Robin Wilton futureidentity at fastmail.fm
Thu Aug 6 07:58:35 PDT 2009

On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 10:48 -0400, "Bob Pinheiro"
<kantara at bobpinheiro.com> wrote:

Brett McDowell wrote:

  I am seeing a few topics emerge from this discussion that I'll

- are all the major protocols properly represented, especially
regarding privacy features?

- should the Open Government initiative(s) require
better-than-passwords for any app collecting PII?

I think the question is, Should the Open Government initiatives
require better-than-password authentication of consumers/citizens
by Identity Providers when fraudulent access to certain eGov
applications could potentially cause "moderate" harm to the
consumer/citizen whose identity was "stolen?"  Are there such
eGov applications?  And if so, who is going to do the work to
help ensure that consumer/citizens have these credentials and
know how to use them, and that use of such credentials won't
cause the citizen's/consumer's privacy to be compromised?

Right - and I think this comes back to that 'framing' question of
whether anyone has produced the 'mapping' of

credentials -> levels of assurance -> services requested

I think you're right that there's a class of applications where
the possible harm is assessed as "moderate" and the appropriate
level of assurance is probably higher than what is currently
envisaged; I also think there are questions about what kind of
authentication (or anonymity/pseudonymity) is appropriate for
what one might term "zero-value" online services, and indeed
whether those justify the collection of any PII whatsoever.

Looking forward to discussion of this. Am going to open up the
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Robin Wilton

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