[WG-OTTO] Building our own schema site w/schema.org code

Rainer Hoerbe rainer at hoerbe.at
Wed Apr 13 15:07:19 CDT 2016


However, this is a pretty involved technology that has been successful only in very narrow niches. Linked data is already a hoop we want IDM-guys to jump. I don’t think that going too semantic will help broad adoption.

- Rainer

> Am 13.04.2016 um 21:59 schrieb Janusz Ulanowski <janusz.ulanowski at heanet.ie>:
> 
> Hi,
> sorry I'm not convinced;)
> 
> Personally I would go for OWL since it has richer vocabulary and is more expressive:
> "OWL = RDFS + more semantic features like cardinalities, union, intersection and more reasoning and inferring possibilities.)"
> "in owl you can add equivalent class: https://www.w3.org/TR/2004/REC-owl-guide-20040210/#equivalentClass1)
> It would be much easier (in the future) to validate metadata against otto schema.
> 
> It's just my point of view.
> 
> All the best,
> Janusz
> 
> 
> 
> On 13/04/16 16:59, yuriy at gluu.org wrote:
>> It would be nice if we can avoid manual conversion. I would prefer to
>> automate it.
>> 
>> Lets say we all agreed that it's ok for us to define schema in N3
>> format. We may combine RDFLib and schemaorg projects:
>> 1. Define in N3 (or whatever other format)
>> 2. On git push automatically trigger re-publishing which would mean:
>>    a) take N3 source
>>    b) convert N3 to rdfa with RDFLib
>>    c) publish with schemaorg
>> 
>> https://github.com/RDFLib/rdflib
>> From lib description: "The library contains parsers and serializers for
>> RDF/XML, N3, NTriples, N-Quads, Turtle, TriX, RDFa and Microdata."
>> 
>> https://github.com/schemaorg/schemaorg
>> 
>> To make it possible we need some strong Python developer (between I'm
>> Java dev).
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Yuriy
>> 
>> 
>> On 2016-04-13 18:49, Janusz Ulanowski wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I think, we shouldn't be worried in what format we want to express our
>>> schema. I tested Protege (tool for building worl-ontology) and I must
>>> say it's pretty good. It allows you to do a lot of things plus check
>>> for consistency. There is nice introduction on www.udemy.com - the
>>> course is called "Practical Knowledge Modelling" - I really recommend
>>> it.
>>> Personally I'm strongly for building our own schema/ontology - In
>>> thhis schema obviously we can reference to schema.org.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 13/04/16 14:30, yuriy at gluu.org wrote:
>>>> Hi Judith,
>>>> 
>>>> Actually both you and Jeff referenced to the same project. According to
>>>> description of the project it consumes only rdfa-lite syntax which is
>>>> actually kind of html.
>>>> 
>>>> Here is core schema defined in rdfa :
>>>> https://github.com/schemaorg/schemaorg/blob/sdo-deimos/data/schema.rdfa
>>>> Rdfa lite on w3: https://www.w3.org/TR/rdfa-lite/
>>>> 
>>>> We have to discuss whether rdfa lite is ok for us to write it by hand
>>>> :).
>>>> 
>>>> It's kind of static publishing while we are looking for generator that
>>>> can generate the site (static html/js/css) from turtle/json-ld or
>>>> similar syntax. So far I didn't find any.
>>>> 
>>>> Actually I may write our own if Mike confirm it.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Yuriy Z
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 2016-04-12 02:52, Bush,Judith wrote:
>>>>> See https://github.com/schemaorg/schemaorg/wiki/AppEngine [1]
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Links:
>>>>> ------
>>>>> [1] https://github.com/schemaorg/schemaorg/wiki/AppEngine
>>>>> 
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