[WG-OTTO] [WG-UMA] Legal Use Case - User Managed vs. Controlled Access

Mike Schwartz mike at gluu.org
Fri Aug 21 14:28:13 CDT 2015

As all of us know, creating and operating a federation is really 
difficult. You need to create both tools and rules. Adding complexity in 
the rules seems to make it exponentially, not arithmetically more 
difficult. So in an industry like healthcare, where there are lots of 
existing rules, and many concerns inadequately addressed by current 
rules, the challenges may seem insurmountable.

The work we are undertaking may only be a small part of the ultimate 
solution for how autonomous domains in highly complex and regulated 
ecosystems establish trust and interoperability. My own personal goal is 
to solve trust between a smaller set of domains than the "healthcare 

Even if we fail, I think this work could be helpful providing feedback 
for future solutions.

- Mike

On 2015-08-21 13:13, Nate Klingenstein wrote:
> Not… really, as far as I’m aware, but you might check with Peter
> Altermann. At least, I see no listed IdP’s for FICAMv2.
> http://www.safe-biopharma.org/SAFE_Trust_Framework.htm [1]
> There have been other efforts under HL-7, XSPA, ...
> I agree with much of what Adrian wrote.
>> On Aug 21, 2015, at 11:17 AM, Nick Roy <nroy at internet2.edu> wrote:
>> Isn't SAFE Bio-Pharma a healthcare federation that does all of the
>> things (or many of them, anyways) that Adrian claims doesn't exist?
>> Nick
> Links:
> ------
> [1] http://www.safe-biopharma.org/SAFE_Trust_Framework.htm
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Michael Schwartz
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