[WG-InfoSharing] WG-InfoSharing Digest, Vol 114, Issue 25

Tom Jones thomasclinganjones at gmail.com
Thu May 30 17:43:47 UTC 2019


i agree with iain. The consent issue needs to fade into the background for
most of a user's life.
Peace ..tom


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>    1. Re: Reminder: CIS WG Consent Receipt Call (Iain Henderson)
>    2. Re: Reminder: CIS WG Consent Receipt Call (Mark @ OC)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 30 May 2019 14:24:38 +0100
> From: Iain Henderson <iainhenderson at mac.com>
> To: Andrew Hughes <andrewhughes3000 at gmail.com>
> Cc: kdowning2002 at gmail.com, margo at transmute.industries,
>         karyl at transmute.industries, Information Sharing Work Group
>         <wg-infosharing at kantarainitiative.org>
> Subject: Re: [WG-InfoSharing] Reminder: CIS WG Consent Receipt Call
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> Apologies, I won?t make the call today.
>
> But I did come across this cartoon which might amuse/ inform - it?s not
> every day you see a cartoon about consent?.
>
> https://marketoonist.com/2019/05/data-privacy-consent-fatigue-and-gdpr.html
>
> The text under the cartoon is also informative; and represents the current
> status of sophisticated marketers - largely beyond GDPR, but worried about
> customer experience. The one specific quote below is also very informative
> and play into our thinking about v.2; i.e. more negative comment on the
> notice and consent model from informed observers.
> As Laura Jehl a partner at law firm BakerHostetler put it <
> https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/04/gdpr-has-frustrated-users-and-regulators.html
> >,
>
> ?I?m kind of a conscientious objector to the notice and consent model.
> It?s offloading too much responsibility to the individual ? If you have a
> job, or kids, or hobbies, or a life, you can?t do that, keeping track of
> all that.  It would be a full-time job to protect your privacy in a notice
> and consent model.?
>
>
>
> Iain
>
>
> > On 29 May 2019, at 22:13, andrewhughes3000 at gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > Main agenda item is the 'Spec v2' project - discussion about how to
> contribute use cases, overall concept of requirements elicitation and
> drafting text, schedule, other details.
> > andrew.
> >
> > CIS WG Consent Receipt Call - Recurring meeting series
> >
> > WG Wiki page:
> https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/infosharing/Home <
> https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fkantarainitiative.org%2Fconfluence%2Fdisplay%2Finfosharing%2FHome&sa=D&usd=2&usg=AFQjCNFVWymwknh7XkAQplPLvtZG5SeSrw
> >
> > Meeting notes:
> https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/infosharing/Meetings+and+Minutes
> <
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> > When
> > Thu May 30, 2019 07:30 ? 08:30 Pacific Time - Vancouver
> > Where
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> https://maps.google.com/maps?q=GoToMeeting+%28GTM1%29&hl=en>)
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> > ?
> > Andrew Hughes - organizer
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 30 May 2019 14:38:46 +0100
> From: "Mark @ OC" <mark at openconsent.com>
> To: Iain Henderson <iainhenderson at mac.com>
> Cc: kdowning2002 at gmail.com, margo at transmute.industries,
>         "wg-infosharing at kantarainitiative.org"
>         <wg-infosharing at kantarainitiative.org>, karyl at transmute.industries
> Subject: Re: [WG-InfoSharing] Reminder: CIS WG Consent Receipt Call
> Message-ID: <50A057D8-3DBA-47B2-82F6-0BF228D9C161 at openconsent.com>
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> Thanks Iain,
>
> Interestingly,  I actually use this cartoon in a presentation to describe
> the problem we are solving here.
>
> - Mark
>
> > On 30 May 2019, at 14:24, Iain Henderson <iainhenderson at mac.com> wrote:
> >
> > Apologies, I won?t make the call today.
> >
> > But I did come across this cartoon which might amuse/ inform - it?s not
> every day you see a cartoon about consent?.
> >
> >
> https://marketoonist.com/2019/05/data-privacy-consent-fatigue-and-gdpr.html
> <
> https://marketoonist.com/2019/05/data-privacy-consent-fatigue-and-gdpr.html
> >
> >
> > The text under the cartoon is also informative; and represents the
> current status of sophisticated marketers - largely beyond GDPR, but
> worried about customer experience. The one specific quote below is also
> very informative and play into our thinking about v.2; i.e. more negative
> comment on the notice and consent model from informed observers.
> > As Laura Jehl a partner at law firm BakerHostetler put it <
> https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/04/gdpr-has-frustrated-users-and-regulators.html
> >,
> >
> > ?I?m kind of a conscientious objector to the notice and consent model.
> It?s offloading too much responsibility to the individual ? If you have a
> job, or kids, or hobbies, or a life, you can?t do that, keeping track of
> all that.  It would be a full-time job to protect your privacy in a notice
> and consent model.?
> >
> >
> >
> > Iain
> >
> >
> >> On 29 May 2019, at 22:13, andrewhughes3000 at gmail.com wrote:
> >>
> >> Main agenda item is the 'Spec v2' project - discussion about how to
> contribute use cases, overall concept of requirements elicitation and
> drafting text, schedule, other details.
> >> andrew.
> >>
> >> CIS WG Consent Receipt Call - Recurring meeting series
> >>
> >> WG Wiki page:
> https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/infosharing/Home <
> https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fkantarainitiative.org%2Fconfluence%2Fdisplay%2Finfosharing%2FHome&sa=D&usd=2&usg=AFQjCNFVWymwknh7XkAQplPLvtZG5SeSrw
> >
> >> Meeting notes:
> https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/infosharing/Meetings+and+Minutes
> <
> https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fkantarainitiative.org%2Fconfluence%2Fdisplay%2Finfosharing%2FMeetings%2Band%2BMinutes&sa=D&usd=2&usg=AFQjCNHw5peanGeloc-3FLyHOkvT8YtNxw
> >
> >> Please join my meeting from your computer, tablet or smartphone.
> >> https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/323930725 <
> https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fglobal.gotomeeting.com%2Fjoin%2F323930725&sa=D&usd=2&usg=AFQjCNH4AweD79h9CIJ0u3iuTUFsCNrMQw
> >
> >> Time zone converter: www.thetimenow.com/time-zone-converter.php <
> https://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thetimenow.com%2Ftime-zone-converter.php&sa=D&usd=2&usg=AFQjCNEWnB3VBf5bOs5kyDAicNbBrhaZLA
> >
> >> You can also dial in using your phone.
> >> United States: +1 (669) 224-3318
> >>
> >> Access Code: 323-930-725
> >>
> >> More phone numbers
> >> Australia: +61 2 9091 7603
> >> Austria: +43 1 2530 22500
> >> Belgium: +32 28 93 7002
> >> Canada: +1 (647) 497-9376
> >> Denmark: +45 32 72 03 69
> >> Finland: +358 923 17 0556
> >> France: +33 170 950 590
> >> Germany: +49 692 5736 7300
> >> Ireland: +353 15 360 756
> >> Italy: +39 0 230 57 81 80
> >> Netherlands: +31 207 941 375
> >> New Zealand: +64 9 282 9510
> >> Norway: +47 21 93 37 37
> >> Spain: +34 932 75 1230
> >> Sweden: +46 853 527 818
> >> Switzerland: +41 225 4599 60
> >> United Kingdom: +44 330 221 0097
> >>
> >> First GoToMeeting? Let's do a quick system check:
> https://link.gotomeeting.com/system-check <
> https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Flink.gotomeeting.com%2Fsystem-check&sa=D&usd=2&usg=AFQjCNHAdjHRf35qTE95e6qEH5ynQU7XfQ
> >
> >> When
> >> Thu May 30, 2019 07:30 ? 08:30 Pacific Time - Vancouver
> >> Where
> >> GoToMeeting (GTM1) (map <
> https://maps.google.com/maps?q=GoToMeeting+%28GTM1%29&hl=en>)
> >> Who
> >> ?
> >> Andrew Hughes - organizer
> >> ?
> >> wg-infosharing at kantarainitiative.org
> >> ?
> >> kdowning2002 at gmail.com
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> WG-InfoSharing mailing list
> >> WG-InfoSharing at kantarainitiative.org
> >> https://kantarainitiative.org/mailman/listinfo/wg-infosharing
> >
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