[WG-InfoSharing] Preferences

Tom Jones thomasclinganjones at gmail.com
Thu Jun 27 20:55:24 UTC 2019


i agree with you on preferences. I use the word stipulation in my writings.
Peace ..tom


On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 12:57 PM James Aschberger <james at onethingless.com>
wrote:

> I consider *preferences* not to be strong enough. Stating a preference is
> – in my understanding – not binding for the party hearing the preference. I
> might state my preference to be upgraded to First Class to my airline of
> choice, but it does not mean anything to them.
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> Apple discontinued in Safari the "Do-Not-Track" signal option because it
> turned out to be useless as the signaled preference was not respected by
> most companies in the digital ecosystem (
> https://www.macrumors.com/2019/02/06/apple-removes-safari-do-not-track-option/
> ).
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> Another angle to look at this: if preferences were valuable to companies,
> why don't they provide their customers with clear and easy options to state
> their preferences regarding direct marketing, tracking, retargeting or
> sharing personal data with third parties? My working assumption: being able
> to claim not to know the preferences is a much better position for a
> company than learning that 90% of customers would prefer not to be tracked
> and having the choice of not tracking customers (= putting the company at a
> disadvantage in today's marketing/tech ecosystem), or continuing to track
> and essentially signaling customer that they disregard the preferences.
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> To be clear – I'm not opposed to Mark's suggestion of discussing the
> possibility of a "preference receipt", provided that we would still have a
> "consent receipt" in place.
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> *From: *WG-InfoSharing <wg-infosharing-bounces at kantarainitiative.org> on
> behalf of Jim Pasquale <jim at digi.me>
> *Date: *Thursday, 27 June 2019 at 21:36
> *To: *Tom Jones <thomasclinganjones at gmail.com>
> *Cc: *Information Sharing Work Group <wg-infosharing at kantarainitiative.org
> >
> *Subject: *Re: [WG-InfoSharing] Preferences
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> Tom,
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> I would think about this as request response, one wants the other supplies
> in a two party relationship, so supplier is better than vendor
>
> As for the rest I’ll reserve judgement.
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> On Jun 27, 2019, at 3:12 PM, Tom Jones <thomasclinganjones at gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> Something got off on the wrong foot here based on the response to mark's
> proposal.
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> Preferences from the user are valuable. There is a specific use of
> preferences where the user supplies consent, but that is not the majority
> of use cases.
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> As i recall Mary had "user submitted terms" which has been batted around
> and some of which as been taken up by the IEEE. But the real point is that
> user preference should be asserted at the beginning, sort-of a DNT (Do not
> track) on steroids. Consent to share information comes later, based on web
> site preferences and requirements. (These are distinguished in the
> California law but not afaict in the GDPR.) I really don't see that
> preferences must include situational decisions in the way that consent
> does. In fact if the user preference is DNT, they may waive that in a
> subsequent consent document specific to the vendor or the present
> transaction.  (I do agree that it would be nice to have a better word than
> vendor, but i don't know what it might be. Organization just doesn't cut
> it.)
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> Peace ..tom
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> Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2019 18:34:24 +0100
> From: "Mark @ OC" <mark at openconsent.com>
> To: "Mark @ OC" <mark at openconsent.com>
> Cc: lisa at dialplus.net, "wg-infosharing at kantarainitiative.org"
>         <wg-infosharing at kantarainitiative.org>
> Subject: Re: [WG-InfoSharing] Reminder: tomorrow's call
> Message-ID: <EBEB863E-06B5-48A5-AC17-6072F32C5304 at openconsent.com>
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> FWIW,
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> I would like to be the first to propose that this working group consider a
> preference receipt as a chartered, roadmap activity.  From all of the
> feedback,  the technical use cases and the considerable social and
> political issues, I think something like a preference receipt would be the
> work item that might really take what many people are looking for from a
> receipt, to that next level of human to tech relationship management.
>
> Mark
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