[WG-InfoSharing] Material for November 1 CIS WG call now on wiki

Nat Sakimura sakimura at gmail.com
Thu Nov 1 17:07:02 UTC 2018

Sorry that I do not seem to have cycles to allocate to this important work,
partly because I trust you guys.
(I have to divert my time to projects that are going to awkward places

ISO/IEC 29184 is going to DIS in the next round. The next draft is going to
be the last Committee Draft.
If something that is to be included in 29184 re: consent receipt really has
to be submitted as comments with very good quality ISO text.
Anything less than that will be rejected so I would like you guys to take
time to craft text if necessary.


Nat Sakimura

On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 8:26 PM John Wunderlich <john at wunderlich.ca> wrote:

> Andrew;
> I like the direction that this is going. User centered information sharing
> will depend on protocols and policies that incorporate users even when - or
> especially when - the basis for processing is not consent. Given how much
> processing happens in the back end, consent will be the basis for only a
> small proportion of overall personal data processing. That means we need
> protocols for sharing and tracking information sharing through the life
> cycle of the data.
> Consent and consent receipts become, in this context, a special case of
> information sharing. The general case of information sharing and an
> auditable information sharing contract can provide the an alternative, user
> centred eco system to pull consumers and users out of the data exploitation
> they currently inhabit.
> On the contract front, see
> https://sisa.jlinc.org/html/ for the JLINC standard information sharing
> agreement.  James Hazard has also put this into Common Accord at
> http://www.commonaccord.org/index.php?action=list&file=G/Org-JLINC-SISA/
> The paradigm of an automated information agreement allows for automated
> processing and scalable solutions that align with the CISWG and Kantara
> goals.
> Regrets for today’s call, but looking forward to working in the next
> iteration with the group.
> On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 23:55 Andrew Hughes <andrewhughes3000 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> Hi all - I have posted some material for review and discussion about what
>> to work on next on the wiki:
>> https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/infosharing/Product+Roadmap+Ideas
>> It's a proposal about how we might think of the problem we are trying
>> to solve, and how the Receipt concept fits into that future world. TL;DR if
>> we look at the data subject-controller interaction using Contract Law
>> concepts, we can gain clarity on what is 'broken' and what we might be able
>> to do to 'fix' it.
>> These are the links from the wiki (Please try to pre-read the first two.
>> We will walk through the third together):
>> Blog: Kantara Initiative Work Groups on Data Sharing and Consent
>> <https://wp.me/p1TQLp-7j>
>> Kantara consent high level use cases.pdf
>> <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/download/attachments/104598628/Kantara%20consent%20high%20level%20use%20cases.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1541043927557&api=v2>
>> Mind map to go with the blog
>> <https://share.mindmanager.com/#publish/Dy37bDd3dLe-sNUuxjHMDffKegAzJCB9wByDXwIs>
>> *Andrew Hughes *CISM CISSP
>> *In Turn Information Management Consulting*
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