Thanks for the notes Colin S and W.  A clarification and some edits below...<br clear="all">=Joni<br><br><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"></span><div class="gmail_quote">

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">I think the ballot simply needs to ask.</span></p></div></div></blockquote><div><br>CLARIFICATION: This is a Member Poll not an All Member Ballot.  Ballot assumes that some decision comes directly from the Ballot. The purpose of this poll is to gauge Member feedback and assumptions as well as to provide an opportunity for All Members to directly interface in the Board and LC level discussions.  The LC is managing this poll as the LC are the stewards of the full Membership representation. <br>

<br>EDIT: If it&#39;s not included already the context above should be summarized at the front of the poll - so people understand why they&#39;re being asked to respond. What is the intent/context of the poll AND what happens next.  What happens next is that the LC and BoT will review a report of the results as input to their on-going discussions regarding NSTIC SG.  Also, the poll should be clear about the visibility of the responses.  Are the results public? Will people&#39;s responses and the roll up report be publicly visible.  I suggest in the spirit of transparency the answer is &quot;yes&quot;. But I am open to oppositional positions on this item. <br>

</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="EN-CA"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"><u></u><u></u></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Further to the previous email communication (<i>include reference</i>), do you think that Kantara should join the NSTIC Steering Group as a member organization?<u></u><u></u></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Yes/No</span></p></div></div></blockquote><div><br>EDIT: add &quot;Undecided&quot;<br>

NOTE: I realize in a poll it&#39;s better to have questions which provide actionable results... however in this case I suggest that &quot;undecided&quot; also speaks fair volumes about the assumptions of the Membership. <br>

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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">If Yes, do you think that Kantara should be a Participating member or an Observing member?<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">

<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Participating/Observing.</span></p></div></div></blockquote><div><br>EDIT: add &quot;Undecided&quot; <br>NOTE: same as above.<br>

<br>EDIT: add question: If you plan to formally participate in the NSTIC SG, which organization will you seek to represent your stakeholder interests? Kantara / Parent Organization (includes Independent) / Not Sure<br>NOTE: this gets to the crux of the question the Board wanted input on - do the Members seek to engage via Kantara or will they seek to participate as part of their Organizations / Independent. <br>

<br>EDIT: add open text box for further explicit comments for consideration.  <br>NOTE: We&#39;re taking the time to facilitate a poll so let&#39;s also provide an opportunity for &#39;free&#39; comments. <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Note that in the event that Kantara joins as either a Participating or an Observing member, the Executive Director, Joni Brennan, would serve as the Primary Organizational Representative.<u></u><u></u></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"><u></u> </span></p></div></div></blockquote><div>With those clarifications, edits and note my comments are included. <b> <br>

<br>ACTION: Heather</b> (I realize you&#39;re very tied up with IETF RFC this week) can you get in SurveyMonkey and work up a draft?  By when do you target a draft would be ready to review? <br><br>Additionally, I am fully prepared to go in to the SG meeting WITHOUT Kantara signing any membership agreement. The webinar made clear that no agreements were mandatory for 6 months so we have time to continue meaningful organization wide discussions and carefully consider next actions as determined by the authority of the Board of Trustees with input from the LC as the stewards of the full Membership. <br>

<br>Makes sense to all? <br><br>Thanks!<br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="EN-CA"><div><p class="MsoNormal">

<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"><u></u></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d" lang="EN-US">Best regards,<u></u><u></u></span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;" lang="EN-US"> <a href="mailto:lc-bounces@kantarainitiative.org" target="_blank">lc-bounces@kantarainitiative.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:lc-bounces@kantarainitiative.org" target="_blank">lc-bounces@kantarainitiative.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Colin Wallis<br>

<b>Sent:</b> August-02-12 3:36 PM<br><b>To:</b> Kantara Leadership Council Kantara; <a href="mailto:trustees@kantarainitiative.org" target="_blank">trustees@kantarainitiative.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [KI-LC] NSTIC Webinar debrief<u></u><u></u></span></p>

</div></div><div><div class="h5"><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Personally, I had more Flash Player install problems than I had expected (despite allowing some time before the start to download and install it but still not fully resolved) so only followed via the slides.<br>

 <br>So from that I did get a sense of what was going down, but clearly not the whole story.<br> <br>Was there anything of significance that should be taken account of in the wording/context for the all-member ballot? <br>

 <br>Cheers<br>Colin<br> <br>PS: or anything related to international participation? <br> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div></div></div></div><br>_______________________________________________<br>
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