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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>..and
Bill's comment is the nub of Bill's position as I understand it - keep it simple
to the existing 3, because if you add OWF you will potentially open the
floodgates of options-on-options.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Sure,
OWF the </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>non-assert
covenant IPR license</span> <span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>may
have weaknesses that Bill sees now (thanks Bill - will be very useful for the later
guidance material!) and perhaps other folks over in OWF will sooner or later as
they implement it.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>And
no doubt OWF will modify it, if the members grumble and/or don't take it up.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Meanwhile,
we will be ahead of other SDO's because at least we have a choice!<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Moving
from Legal to Strategic for a moment, if we were to offer OWF's license do we
feel some of their members would do stuff in KI? We have offered many olive
branches in the past and been disappointed! &nbsp;Would this be a game-changer?
Or potentially give us more headaches for little gain?<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Even
from our own membership base, is there going to be enough motivation for OWF-type
licenses over the next 12 months?&nbsp; Is it worth asking them?<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Several
thoughts in the above I know&#8230;sorry<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Cheers<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Colin<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> lc-bounces@kantarainitiative.org
[mailto:lc-bounces@kantarainitiative.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Bill Smith<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 20 November 2009 4:36 a.m.<br>
<b>To:</b> Kantara BoT<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Kantara Leadership Council<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [KI-LC] [BoT] A new Non-Assert Covenant to consider
adopting<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal>-1 (if this is the only non-assert covenant the Board will
consider)<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>On Nov 19, 2009, at 7:00 AM, Nat Sakimura wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>+1, for various reasons.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 6:47 AM, Brett McDowell &lt;<a
href="mailto:email@brettmcdowell.com">email@brettmcdowell.com</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal>Many of you know that the Open Web Foundation has been
working on a non-assert covenant IPR license for some time. &nbsp;What you
might not know is that I had spent some time working on it with them in the
Spring. &nbsp;As of today it is considered approved. &nbsp;They have decided to
label it version &quot;0.9&quot; to indicate it might change over time and they
are open to enhancing it, but do not mistake that for &quot;draft&quot; or
&quot;tentative&quot;. &nbsp;This license is final and there is no work
underway to develop it any further at this time.<br>
<br>
What interesting about this license is that Google, Microsoft, and Yahoo! have
clearly been the driving force behind it's development and each has committed
to license specifications under this license.<br>
<br>
News &amp; list of specs under OWFa:<br>
<a
href="http://openwebfoundation.org/2009/11/introducing-the-open-web-foundation-agreement.html"
target="_blank">http://openwebfoundation.org/2009/11/introducing-the-open-web-foundation-agreement.html</a><br>
<br>
The agreement itself:<br>
<a href="http://openwebfoundation.org/legal/agreement/" target="_blank">http://openwebfoundation.org/legal/agreement/</a><br>
<br>
Talking points from OWF regarding the agreement:<br>
<a href="http://wiki.openwebfoundation.org/How_to_use_the_agreement"
target="_blank">http://wiki.openwebfoundation.org/How_to_use_the_agreement</a><br>
<br>
I encourage the Board of Trustees to consider adding this to our IPR Policy as
the first (and perhaps only) non-assert covenant in our menu of options.<br>
<br>
If you have questions about this license, I may be able to answer them on this
week's call under &quot;AOB&quot; (assuming we get through the full agenda in
time).<br>
<br>
P.S.<br>
If there are concerns with the license please let me know as I now (once again)
serve on the Open Web Foundation Legal Affairs Committee.<br>
<br>
<br>
Brett McDowell &nbsp;| &nbsp;<a href="http://info.brettmcdowell.com/"
target="_blank">http://info.brettmcdowell.com</a> &nbsp;| &nbsp;<a
href="http://KantaraInitiative.org/" target="_blank">http://KantaraInitiative.org</a><br>
<br>
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-- <br>
Nat Sakimura (=nat)<br>
<a href="http://www.sakimura.org/en/">http://www.sakimura.org/en/</a><br>
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