[KI-LC] Planning EIC 2021 Munich: European plenary and pre-conference workshop

Thorsten Niebuhr [WedaCon GmbH] tniebuhr at wedacon.net
Mon Apr 19 20:10:07 UTC 2021

Hi Andrew,

thats a great idea, and it came just in time! I was nearly done with my 
mail re the agenda. Great to see you again asking the last minute 
question! But you saved me from searching for all the relevant mailadresses.


I think we could put that into the 'first third' (and/or even extend 
it), and include one or two into the panel (either the first one or the 
last one).

As I am just too lazy to re-fomulate the mail I was just about to send, 
I will send it to you all 'as is' now. Hope that is fine!


Hello Kantarians,

as you might know, I have taken over from Colin to coordinate / organize 
our european class reunion at Kuppinger's EIC Munich 
<https://www.kuppingercole.com/events/eic2021>), and many of you have 
indicated some interest in taking part (or taking over a part) for the 
planned workshop, which will (most likely and as usual) be scheduled 
just before the conference (forenoon on the first day).

First of all: Thank you so much (also in the name of the board) for your 
offer to make this workshop work [sic!]

We have already collected topics and brainstorm'ed an agenda, which we 
plan to communicate to the event organizing team from Kuppinger in the 
next days.

Conceptually (and as already announced), we will split the appr. 3 hrs 
we do have into three pieces

  * 1/3 Kantara past-today-tomorrow
      o Short Intro to Kantara and what we are/do, with a little help
        from our friends (affiliate partners and organizations)
        representing /taking part in a panel -->
      o Panel (not sure yet, I think adding a few from 'the past, from
        today, ...') would be nice. So incubated orgs, founding members,
        the current president, the (upcoming/ new) ED, etc pp)
  * 1/3 Current WGs and DGs
      o My goal is to transport details about *all* the current groups.
        However, as we do have a few groups which are not only important
        but also famous, we will give them more and extra time to
        present. And also because we have found someone to present: -->
      o ANCR WG (Vitor and Mark)
      o UMA WG (Alax, Andi)
      o IA WG (Björn)
  * 1/3 Workshop
      o Let them (the audience) be heard :
        /"What is the most challenging /your topic for the next 5 years
        / 10 years"/
          + /Open Session: Write down your thoughts and place it on the
          + /Discussion audience with the panel

What is still missing is some 'catching phrase' for the workshop (or 
more profane: the title.) A proposal, but maybe someone has a better idea:

*Kantara past-today-tomorrow: Driving digital trust**

*I catched this up somewhere, but I have no idea where. Just found it in 
one of my notice books, but not on the internet

Re the 'plenary': we are still checking with the european members / 
physically available Kantarians if we should do that. if so, it will 
(should) be some kind of hybrid event as well. Just stay tuned!

Feedback welcome!



Thorsten H. Niebuhr
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On 4/19/21 9:30 PM, Andrew Hughes wrote:
> Hi all - thanks Thorsten for taking this on!
> One thing that I was thinking about is getting a few companies up on 
> stage to explain how they are using Kantara products and services to 
> grow and support their business. What is valuable to them?
> Because there are a few companies that are actively leveraging Kantara 
> artifacts as a core element of their business offerings - and others 
> might be able to see how that works...
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> On Tue, Apr 13, 2021 at 3:49 PM Colin Wallis Kantara 
> <colin at kantarainitiative.org <mailto:colin at kantarainitiative.org>> wrote:
>     Hi everyone
>     Kantara Director-at-large Thorsten is taking the lead on
>     co-ordinating Kantara's activity around this event because, as you
>     probably know already, I will be on the other side of the world by
>     then ;-).
>     I am emailing all European member company reps and individual
>     contributor members directly, after the bcc email last week to the
>     corporate members.
>     This is because we are now up against the deadline with organisers
>     Kuppinger Cole for this event and we must confirm 'who and what'
>     for the EIC 2021 website agenda and promotion.
>     I am also adding Kantara members already listed as speakers on the
>     agenda. Congratulations Katryna Dow, Mary Hodder, Allan Foster and
>     George Fletcher!
>     Thorsten and Ruth are also on the agenda (as am I, but that is a
>     mistake;-)).
>     Thorsten has sketched a plan for the European Members Plenary on
>     the Monday and the pre-conference Workshop on the Tuesday morning
>     before the conference begins after lunch. Please see it below.
>     I ask for your response on just 4 things :
>     1) Will you attend in person, or remote, or not at all.
>     2) If you are intending to participate in person or remote, will
>     you participate in the European Members Plenary (probably at
>     Victors Hotel around the corner from the event venue) on the day
>     before the conference (Monday Sept 13th).
>     3) If you are intending to participate in person or remote, will
>     you attend the pre-conference workshop, participate on panels or
>     presentations regarding your company's work and its relationship
>     to Kantara.
>     4) What do you think of Thorsten's early draft? What would you
>     suggest to improve?
>     Thanking you very much in advance.
>     Kind regards
>     Colin
>     ......................................................................................................................
>     From Thorsten's email to the Board yesterday.
>     I would like to add a topic to the meeting this week re the
>     agenda/ planning for EIC 2020 ( Member Plenary + Kantara Workshop)
>     I am still not sure if we manage to organize a plenary, but my
>     feeling is that we absolutely should try to do so (preferably as
>     hybrid event as well).
>     We agreed with Kuppinger to come back to them with an agenda by
>     end of this week. Please check the attachment. Comments much
>     appreciated!
>     *Plenary*
>     Depending on the situation (C19) and how many persons would
>     attend, I hope we can (again) organize the event in the 'Victor's'
>     Residence Hotel'
>     Agenda for plenary will be, as always, 50% Kantara internal/
>     updates and 50% Warm-Up prepare for the workshop the coming day.
>     Around 5.5 hours (10.30am - 4pm with lunch and breaks included)
>     *Workshop*
>     I would love to make this more a workshop-style than it was in the
>     past years. So I recommend a 33/33/33 approach, and Colin thinks
>     to run for about 2.5 hours, slightly shorter than previous years
>     /33% Kantara Board and LC Officers and staff/
>     past-today-tomorrow (what is Kantara)
>     Panel (Kantara and Liaison friends, showing where Kantara has
>     incubated others (eg IDPro) assurance-programs and groups explainers
>     /33% Current WGs and DGs/
>     All groups, a max 10 min. presentation from 'not-responding' WGs
>     and DGs groups giving most of this segment to UMA and ANCR, which
>     already responded to our call with specific subjects and are happy
>     to contribute.
>     /33% Workshop/
>     include the audience with a discussion Question.. e.g. What will
>     be the most challenging topic in Identity for the next 5 years.
>     Sort/ Categorize answers and then discuss (panel + audience)
>     --
>     Thorsten H. Niebuhr
>     Geschäftsführender Gesellschafter /CEO
>     WedaCon Informationstechnologien GmbH
>     tniebuhr at wedacon.net <mailto:tniebuhr at wedacon.net>
>     www.wedacon.net <http://www.wedacon.net>
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