[KI-LC] Kantara CIS - Project Proposal

Salvatore D'Agostino sal at idmachines.com
Tue Dec 1 10:09:25 CST 2015

Thanks Joni, just making sure and  I guess I was more interested in the sense of the LC/Kantara in the discussion so that the sharing might be better informed by the interest/state of the work in the org.


Share away Patrick and thanks for asking.


From: jonibrennan at gmail.com [mailto:jonibrennan at gmail.com] On Behalf Of Joni Brennan
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2015 10:02 AM
To: Salvatore D'Agostino
Cc: Patrick Curry; Mark Lizar; lc
Subject: Re: [KI-LC] Kantara CIS - Project Proposal


Hi All,


I'm multi-tasking here.  I want to make clear that this is a publicly viewable list and KI work (by our charter) is meant to be open and transparent.  So, appreciate you checking Sal!!, and it is OK to share as you wish. 




On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 11:18 PM, Salvatore D'Agostino <sal at idmachines.com> wrote:



Can you hold off until the LC has had a chance to have a discussion?  Highly likely that it can be shared but let’s just make sure.


As LC Chair I will try to expedite.   


I certainly think there is an interest in the conversation inside Kantara.  


You might also find that the e-gov WG has an interest here, just a thought.


This also might be something to raise at the Board level as well.  




I am channeling not speaking for the LC and also my own thoughts here.  


In terms of pursuing this it really is a question of whether your WG or other WGs want to take on the work that for the most part determines Kantara’s interest unless the Board chooses to take an initiative.


In terms of funding, write up the proposal that gives some even timeline and budget.  Is this based on the Appendix: Project Outline in the link below?  If so you are close, so even a rough one to get a ball rolling.  It seems reasonable enough (to me) as a topic.





From: lc-bounces at kantarainitiative.org [mailto:lc-bounces at kantarainitiative.org] On Behalf Of Patrick Curry
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 4:24 PM
To: Mark Lizar; lc
Subject: Re: [KI-LC] Kantara CIS - Project Proposal


Dear all, 


Rainer H and I are partners in the 11 nation + Interpol EU Project MAPPING on Internet governance, fundamental human rights and IP protection.  Many lawyers.  The project is linked to about another 6 EU projects ranging from privacy, consent through to evidence, law enforcement and surveillance (not the same).  The Project Coordinator, Prof Joe Cannataci has just been appointed the UN Special Rapporteur for Privacy.  


May I have your permission to share the email below with Prof Cannataci and, if so, is there a discussion worth having with/within KI about how the unfolding strategic situation in leading governments, international organisations and international industry supply chains, and the underlying changes in legislation and threats? 


best wishes,



Patrick Curry
Clarion Identity Ltd

M:   +44 786 024 9074 <tel:%2B44%20786%20024%209074> 
T:   +44 1980 620606 <tel:%2B44%201980%20620606> 
patrick.curry at clarionidentity.com



On 30 Nov 2015, at 13:11, Mark Lizar <mark at smartspecies.com> wrote:


Greetings LC, 


In the last week in the CIS-WG was apart of the MIT Media Labs Future Commerce Hackathon & Unconference, and we have developed a a project for a Privacy Day (Jan 28) campaign called - I Don’t Agree. 


The aim of the I Don’t Agree campaign is to put the CIS work to good use in a pilot that uses both the MVCR:Consent Receipt and also experiments with asserting consent preference and user submitted terms.  The project is designed to be social and capture a lot of data about how people and organisations would like to interact and communicate around policy. 


So far, the project includes a Presentation <https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1a7rVNFULxttnf8xlZKHYKlZw88XuNurqQZCDD50g4bo/edit?usp=sharing>  made at the hackathon and a mock up a landing page called http://www.idontagree.org <http://www.idontagree.org/home.html> . 


The project has the support of Sandy Pentland’s and Dazza from MIT Media labs and the response from the European Commission has been very positive.


As this is not the typical standard or trust focused project in Kantara I would like to ask the LC for advice. 


Is this something that the LC would support the CIS-WG in pursuing ? and if so, is this something that would be eligible for Kantara funding or a Kantara Pilot? Should the board of Trustees be approached to provide funding, or even a match funding pledge?


There is definite interest from the Personal Data & Trust Network in the UK to Participate in a pilot as well, there is a tremendous opportunity to develop a pilot scheme authority for consent, which I believe to be the biggest opportunity in this space. 


The project is being led by myself through the newly created Open Consent Group in the UK, which is being designed for creating trust infrastructure that people can use, as well as companies.     


As this project is new territory for trust, compliance and identity, it would be great to get feedback from the LC on how Kantara might be involved in the CIS driven effort.  


Please Advise, and if possible provide a way to pledge support so that we can kick off the start of this project. 


Kind Regards,


Mark Lizar




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