[KI-LC] Question regarding RE: The Kantara "why" and WG rechartering
joni at ieee-isto.org
Wed Aug 21 08:00:07 CDT 2013
Thank you for the thoughts Ingo. Some comments in line.
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 5:36 AM, <Ingo.Friese at telekom.de> wrote:
> Hello Heather,****
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> In general I agree with this. ****
> But is in the Telco-Wg case something in charter that does not fit here?
I believe that the Telco-WG has great opportunity to fit.
> In the “why” statement is room for “interpretation”. E.g. what means high
Others have also asked. High-Value, in this case, is equal to high Trust,
Security, Assurance - ALSO - where organizations would adopt such work
because they will generate business cases etc.
> For example: In the Telcco case…authentication of a single Telco customer
> using a SIM-card is maybe not valuable, but since we have millions of
> customers it could be a multi-million dollar business?
This would be equivalent to high value yes. One idea we'd also like to see,
however, is how could Kantara potentially operate a program or activity to
verify that the Telco use case is being met. Is there a way that we could
verify and provide a layer of trust for organizations who were to adopt the
Ideally we would also like to have the Telco perform a review of the
Identity Assurance Framework and identify where there are specific areas of
input for consideration for the telco landscape. Perhaps the development
of a telco specific profile or profiles. This would be ideal.
> Or do you mean, we should only deal with level 3 authentications and
While level 1 is in scope, we're focusing more on 2-4.
> So I’m not sure how the charter should look like and what is the intention
> behind this activity.
I plan as time allows to join as many groups for one call to discuss. I
would be happy to do so for Telco too. The am is to help Kantara and all
of the groups more clearly understand and operate to the vision of the
organization. We feel that all benefit from this type of focus. So - I
believe Telco is well positioned with good opportunity to do so, and by
doing so we may be able to draw more attention and activity to this group.
I hope this helps?
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> Best Ingo****
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> *From:* Heather Flanagan [mailto:heather at kantarainitiative.org]
> *Sent:* Mittwoch, 21. August 2013 00:02
> *To:* Jonas Hogberg K.O; Friese, Ingo
> *Cc:* wg-telcoid at kantarainitiative.org; Joni Brennan
> *Subject:* The Kantara "why" and WG rechartering****
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> Hello Jonas, Ingo,
> During the recent Kantara Leadership Retreat, we focused on the question
> of why Kantara exists (see
> http://kantarainitiative.org/pipermail/lc/2013-August/002348.html for a
> high level summary out of that retreat). The idea is that with a clear
> "why", we can make sure the actions we take truly support the goals of the
> Kantara Initiative. The current working DRAFT of Kantara's "why" statement
> DRAFT: Kantara exists to define rules of engagement for operators of
> online services, enabling high-value, privacy-preserving identity and
> In order to incorporate this concept in to the Innovation side of Kantara,
> the work groups, we are initiating a Work Group recharter effort. This
> will help make sure that the Work Groups are on track with solid
> deliverables and timelines that support the goal of the organization. Work
> Groups can expect to receive more organizational support in terms of
> marketing to increase group participation and the creation of
> industry-driving Kantara Recommendations. For Work Groups that do not
> recharter, their status will change to that of a Discussion Group, which is
> considered a much more informal effort. (Please see the Kantara Operating
> Procedures for a more detailed definition of Work Group and Discussion
> Group: http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/x/owVAAg .)
> The link to your current charter can be found on your space in the Kantara
> wiki. The LC would like to have the updated charters in by September 25.
> The LC will discuss and review the charters over the month of October.
> Thank you for your participation within Kantara, ****
> -- ****
> Heather Flanagan****
> Technical Program Coordinator****
> Kantara Initiative****
> Skype: hlflanagan****
> email: heather at kantarainitiative.org****
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