[KI-LC] Dissolution of WG Guidance

Joni Brennan joni at ieee-isto.org
Fri Jul 13 14:54:42 EDT 2012


Hi Bob,

That looks good and a vote to follow with in the CIWG from there.  Thanks
for your efforts to date!

Best Regards,

=Joni

Joni Brennan
Kantara Initiative | Executive Director
voice:+1 732-226-4223
email: joni @ ieee-isto.org

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On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 11:51 AM, Bob Pinheiro <kantara at bobpinheiro.com>wrote:

>  FYI, I send the following email to the Consumer Identity WG mailing list:
>
>  You are receiving this email because you are registered as a Participant
> in the Kantara Initiative's Consumer Identity Work Group<http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/WGCI/Home>,
> or you are on the CIWG mailing list.
>
> The CIWG was formed as a continuation of the old Liberty Alliance Identity
> Theft Prevention Special Interest Group.  The purpose of the CIWG was to
> focus Kantara interest and resources on helping to enable high assurance
> consumer identity and authentication solutions for identity fraud
> prevention on the Internet.  However, due to uncertainty as to how to
> achieve such goals, as well as low levels of participation and a lack of
> funding, the CIWG never achieved its purpose.  CIWG has now been inactive
> for the past year, and the last telephone meeting was held on June 29,
> 2011.   We discussed on that call whether the WG should disband (meeting
> notes here<http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/WGCI/CIWG+Agenda+and+Minutes-2011-06-29>).
> But because other initiatives were just getting under way at that time that
> could have an impact on consumer identity, such as the National Strategy
> for Trusted Identities in Cyberspace (NSTIC), it was decided to take a
> "wait and see" approach before making any further decisions on the future
> of the CIWG.
>
> Now that a year has passed, it is time to take definitive action to decide
> on the future of the CIWG.
>
> NSTIC is just now getting off the ground, with a first meeting of the
> NSTIC Steering Group scheduled for August 2012.  Funding for pilot projects
> will be announced later this summer.  So in the US anyway, there are now
> other potential opportunities for those interested in consumer identity
> issues to have an impact.
>
> Unless there is any reasonable chance that the CIWG can, at this point,
> define a set of work products and recruit the resources needed to generate
> such products, I believe it is time to formally disband the CIWG.  This
> will require taking a vote among the voting Participants of the CIWG, or
> requesting that the Kantara Leadership Council shutdown the CIWG due to
> lack of activity.    Another possibility is to convert the CIWG into a
> Discussion Group.  However, unless there is sufficient interest among
> Participants to meet from time to time to discuss topics related to
> consumer identity, this option would not seem to be viable.
>
> If you would like to initiate any discussion on the CIWG's future,  please
> respond to the list, or to me directly.  Otherwise, unless there is
> sufficient interest expressed in converting to a Discussion Group, or
> someone can make a strong case for continuing as a Work Group, I will take
> steps within the next few weeks to disband the CIWG.
>
> Thanks
>
> ---------------------------
> Bob Pinheiro
> Chair, Consumer Identity WG908-654-1939consumerid at bobpinheiro.comwww.bobpinheiro.com
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> On 7/13/2012 11:08 AM, Joni Brennan wrote:
>
> Thanks Colin,
>
> Yes this is the process that Trent and Eve took the lead developing to
> complement the OPs way back in the first year of KI.  I think it's clear
> too.  If we need to discuss further on an LC call we certainly can. But I
> would suggest that a group wanting to follow this process would, as a next
> step, call a vote and make clear the requirements for it to carry (75%
> supermajority) and and go from there.
>
> If chairs have questions they can contact me.
>
> thanks!
>
> =Joni
>
> Joni Brennan
> Kantara Initiative | Executive Director
> voice:+1 732-226-4223
> email: joni @ ieee-isto.org
>
> Slideshare - Building Trusted Identity Ecosystems - It takes a village!
> http://www.slideshare.net/kantarainitiative/kantara-may-2012
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 6:37 PM, Colin Wallis <colin_wallis at hotmail.com>wrote:
>
>>  It seems to work for me...or am I missing something?
>> Perhaps a bit circuituous, but it works, yes?
>> Cheers
>> Colin
>>  ------------------------------
>> From: joni at ieee-isto.org
>> Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 12:49:40 -0700
>> To: LC at kantarainitiative.org
>> Subject: [KI-LC] Dissolution of WG Guidance
>>
>>
>> LC,
>>
>> I've reviewed the Operating Procedures and find no procedures with in a
>> work group for the dissolution of a WG.  I do find 2 ways in which actions
>> are defined.
>>
>> 1. Via a simple majority vote of the LC (OPs section 2.6), and
>> 2. according to the process defined by the LC (
>> http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/x/3oCdAg).
>>
>> I suggest LC review item 2 because it actually defines what leads up to
>> item 1.  For a Work Group to self-shut-down (decharter) they would need to
>> hold a super-majority vote with in the WG and then notify the LC of the
>> results of that vote.
>>
>> For example: Consumer Identity WG has 6 voting members (
>> http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/x/IQCX) so at least 5 people
>> (4.5 is supermajority) must vote affirmative for the decharter action.
>>
>> Should it be proven that this vote is attempted, has opportunity, but can
>> not be achieved, it would seem apparent that this decision comes back to
>> the authority of the LC OR the group continues but does not generate
>> quarterly reports > kicking off the quarterly reports process as defined in
>> item 2.  That bit of detail should close the questions about what happens
>> when a group may seek to decharter.  Please advise if there are questions
>> or concerns.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> =Joni
>>
>> Joni Brennan
>> Kantara Initiative | Executive Director
>> voice:+1 732-226-4223 <%2B1%20732-226-4223>
>> email: joni @ ieee-isto.org
>>
>> Slideshare - Building Trusted Identity Ecosystems - It takes a village!
>> http://www.slideshare.net/kantarainitiative/kantara-may-2012
>>
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