[KI-LC] Comments: US Federal Privacy Profile (RE: Draft agenda for LC telecon 2012-02-01)

Colin Wallis Colin.Wallis at dia.govt.nz
Tue Jan 31 20:01:18 EST 2012

OK so I had a quick look at this.

Hoping some folks can help with more context here. As soon as I saw the Identity Subject Privacy Requirements, the work in P3 came flooding back - started by Bob Gellman and then taken a bit forward by Anna, Susan, Rich, Dave and a few of us.

So was the work here in IAWG, informed by the P3 work? It looks like it but it might be just a co-incidence. If it is, then does P3 need to do to the first iteration of the Privacy Profile as scoped - that is, do a  Privacy Profile for ICAM, because it seems pretty much done in this IAWG doc.

Moving on to the doc itself.

First thing many folks do, and that includes me, iIs go through and circle the 'must', 'should', 'shall' 'may' words, to get a feel for what  requirements are going to be audited and if that was what the writer intended?

To that end, there are some inconsistencies. 'Most 'shoulds' are underlines, but not all, but no  'musts' are.

There is a rogue 'shall' in line 135 (2.7 Termination) that is not consistent..unless there is some implicit intent I am missing here...
There is a seriously rogue 'should' on line 139 (2.8 Changes in the Service).

The first item is one helluva paragraph, and needs splitting up..because I for one, get lost in who is doing what to whom and whether a Subject is just short hand for an Identity Subject, or some other actor.

2.1 Informed Consent - At the time the Identity Subject initiates registration, the CSP must provide the Subject a general description of the service and how it operates including what information, if any, may be released by default to any Relying Party and, if the Subject indicates intent to use the service to gain access to Federal government applications, must make available to the Identity Subject what additional information, if any, may be released to such applications. The Subject must indicate consent to these provisions before registration can be completed.

Hope this helps.


From: lc-bounces at kantarainitiative.org [mailto:lc-bounces at kantarainitiative.org] On Behalf Of Lara Zimberoff
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Subject: [KI-LC] Draft agenda for LC telecon 2012-02-01

Below, please find the draft agenda for the LC call taking place tomorrow, Wednesday, February 1 2012.

LC telecon 2012-02-01
Date and Time

 *   Date: Wednesday, 01 February 2012
 *   Time: 13:00 PT | 16:00 ET | 20:00 UTC (time chart<http://timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=6&day=22&year=2011&hour=20&min=0&sec=0&p1=0&sort=2>)
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 1.  Roll Call<http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/LC/Roster>
 2.  Approve 2012-01-18<http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/LC/LC+telecon+2012-01-18> Minutes
 3.  Discuss and vote on the IAWG's Additional Criteria: US Federal Privacy Profile v2.0
 4.  April 13-14 F2F in Germany Agenda Discussion
 5.  WG Updates
 6.  BoT Liaison Representative Update
 7.  Status of Quarterly WG Reports
 8.  AOB
 9.  Adjourn


Quorum is 6 of 11 as of 13 July 2011.

 1.  TBD


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Roll Call<http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/LC/Roster>
Minutes & Notes
Approve 2012-01-18<http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/LC/LC+telecon+2012-01-18> Minutes

Motion: xx moves, xx seconds

Approve minutes: http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/LC/LC+telecon+2012-01-18

Passed by xx consent.

Discuss and vote on the IAWG's Additional Criteria: US Federal Privacy Profile v2.0
April 13-14 F2F in Germany Agenda Discussion
WG Updates
BoT Liason Representative Update
Status of Quarterly WG Reports

Next Meeting

 *   Date: Wednesday, 15 February 2012
 *   Time: 13:00 PT | 16:00 ET | 20:00 UTC (time chart<http://timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=7&day=6&year=2011&hour=20&min=0&sec=0&p1=0&sort=2>)

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