[KI-LC] UDVPI-WG Supplemental Budget Request

Iain Henderson iain.henderson at mydex.org
Wed Sep 9 00:11:56 PDT 2009


Bob, my quick perspective on this is that your proposal better fits  
with the second stage of the proposed consumer research than the first  
(the qualitative phase).

Regards

Iain

On 9 Sep 2009, at 01:24, Bob Pinheiro wrote:

> It has already been mentioned that this work could potentially  
> support the needs of several WGs.  I understand that the main output  
> of this effort in 2009 would be a literature search of the current  
> state-of-the-art in user-centric digital identity, with indicators  
> of where there are gaps.  The bulk of the research would be  
> performed in 2010, and would consist of consumer surveys.
>
> In order to address some of the near-term (2009) needs of the  
> Consumer Identity WG, I was thinking of proposing (as a separate  
> 2009 supplementary budget proposal) some type of outreach effort  
> that would consist of telephone interviews with a small number of  
> selected individuals who could provide informed opinions and  
> insights about issues involving identity assurance as it relates to  
> consumers.  Whether such individuals would be willing to share such  
> information to support our efforts is unknown, but assuming they  
> are, I think some useful insights might be obtained that could help  
> us to better plan our work for 2010.
>
> Such insights may or may not be useful to the other WGs.  One  
> advantage of telephone interviews in 2009 is that I think useful  
> information might be obtainable fairly quickly, rather than waiting  
> for a full-scale market research project to take place in 2010.  And  
> I'm proposing that subject matter experts would be interviewed,  
> rather than consumers themselves.  So the kind of information  
> obtained would be different.  That's not to say that a large-scale  
> research project involving consumer surveys would not be valuable,  
> just that telephone interviews with selected individuals may produce  
> useful results in 2009 that could help focus the work more quickly.
>
> So now I'm wondering whether I should even consider making a  
> supplementary budget request for 2009 solely for the benefit of the  
> Consumer Identity WG.  Could the two approaches perhaps be combined,  
> so that work in 2009 consists of more than just a literature survey,  
> while deferring consumer surveys until next year?   Or would that  
> just be too unwieldy?  Any thoughts?
>
> Bob
> ---------------------------
> Bob Pinheiro
> Chair, Consumer Identity WG
> 908-654-1939
> kantara at bobpinheiro.com
> www.bobpinheiro.com
>
>
> J. Trent Adams wrote:
>>
>> Iain -
>>
>> Can you tackle a paragraph that addresses Ken's point?
>>
>> I believe you have more than enough expressed interest from other  
>> WGs to
>> satisfy his comment, but it'll probably need to be more clearly  
>> articulated.
>>
>> If so, do you think you can get this done quickly enough to keep it  
>> on
>> the voting track for tomorrow?
>>
>> - Trent
>>
>>
>> Salzberg, Kenneth M wrote:
>>
>>> In reading the proposal, there is one thing that stands out as a  
>>> potential issue for me.
>>> In the Exec Summary the following statement is made:
>>> "The ultimate aim is to produce a statistically valid body or  
>>> research available to
>>> consortia partners that will enable product/ service design for  
>>> those wishing to deploy
>>> and engage with user-centric/ user-driven identities."
>>> In the Kanatara benefit section it states:
>>> "This project seeks to build and enable genuine thought leadership  
>>> across technology,
>>> business model, regulatory and user experience in the digital  
>>> identity realm."
>>>
>>> The issue I have is that I question the use of Kantara funds to  
>>> drive development of member products and services, which does not  
>>> seem appropriate to me.  This could certainly be a side benefit,  
>>> but not the direct purpose.
>>> I agree that the thought leadership is a worthy goal, but is a bit  
>>> weak on its own.
>>>
>>> What I would like to see is something that shows how this research  
>>> will help drive/market work being done in one or more WGs.
>>>
>>> Ken Salzberg,  Technology Manager
>>> Integrated Platforms Research, Intel Labs
>>> ken.salzberg at intel.com   503.264.8276   JF2-58
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: lc-bounces at kantarainitiative.org [mailto:lc-bounces at kantarainitiative.org 
>>> ] On Behalf Of J. Trent Adams
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 2:27 PM
>>> To: LC at kantarainitiative.org
>>> Subject: Re: [KI-LC] UDVPI-WG Supplemental Budget Request
>>>
>>> All -
>>>
>>> I would like to ask everyone to make an attempt to attend tomorrow's
>>> scheduled Leadership Council teleconference in order to achieve  
>>> quorum.
>>>
>>> During the call I would like to see if we can approve the  
>>> supplemental
>>> budget request that was put on the table last week by the UDVPI-WG.
>>>
>>> I assume that everyone has had a chance to ask the necessary  
>>> questions
>>> during the past week, and it's important to try and close this out  
>>> so
>>> the work can begin.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>> Trent
>>>
>>>
>>> J. Trent Adams wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> All -
>>>>
>>>> As you saw in the agenda for tomorrow's LC teleconference, Iain has
>>>> submitted a Supplemental Budget Request for 2009 on behalf of the  
>>>> UDVPI-WG:
>>>>
>>>> http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/x/GQDTAQ
>>>>
>>>> This request is to help fund the preliminary phase of a proposed
>>>> research project with the ultimate goal being to:
>>>>
>>>>     "produce a statistically valid body or research
>>>>      available to consortia partners that will enable
>>>>      product / service design for those wishing to
>>>>      deploy and engage with user-centric / user-
>>>>      driven identities."
>>>>
>>>> ISOC has independently allocated US$4,000 to help fund this initial
>>>> phase, and the request is for an additional US$5,000 from Kantara.
>>>>
>>>> The following KI WGs have already expressed interest in the work:
>>>>
>>>>   * Privacy & Public Policy
>>>>   * User Managed Access
>>>>   * eGov
>>>>   * Consumer Identity
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately, Iain will not be able to attend the call tomorrow,  
>>>> so it
>>>> would help if you could review the document in advance and send  
>>>> him (or
>>>> reply to the list) with any immediate questions.  We can pick up  
>>>> the
>>>> discussion on the call and see what we need to do from there,  
>>>> knowing
>>>> that any questions requiring Iain will need to be deferred.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Trent
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> --
>>> J. Trent Adams
>>> =jtrentadams
>>>
>>> Outreach Specialist, Trust & Identity
>>> Internet Society
>>> http://www.isoc.org
>>>
>>> e) adams at isoc.org
>>> o) 703-439-2149
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>
>

Iain Henderson
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