[KI-LC] UDVPI-WG Supplemental Budget Request
iain.henderson at mydex.org
Wed Sep 9 00:11:56 PDT 2009
Bob, my quick perspective on this is that your proposal better fits
with the second stage of the proposed consumer research than the first
(the qualitative phase).
On 9 Sep 2009, at 01:24, Bob Pinheiro wrote:
> It has already been mentioned that this work could potentially
> support the needs of several WGs. I understand that the main output
> of this effort in 2009 would be a literature search of the current
> state-of-the-art in user-centric digital identity, with indicators
> of where there are gaps. The bulk of the research would be
> performed in 2010, and would consist of consumer surveys.
> In order to address some of the near-term (2009) needs of the
> Consumer Identity WG, I was thinking of proposing (as a separate
> 2009 supplementary budget proposal) some type of outreach effort
> that would consist of telephone interviews with a small number of
> selected individuals who could provide informed opinions and
> insights about issues involving identity assurance as it relates to
> consumers. Whether such individuals would be willing to share such
> information to support our efforts is unknown, but assuming they
> are, I think some useful insights might be obtained that could help
> us to better plan our work for 2010.
> Such insights may or may not be useful to the other WGs. One
> advantage of telephone interviews in 2009 is that I think useful
> information might be obtainable fairly quickly, rather than waiting
> for a full-scale market research project to take place in 2010. And
> I'm proposing that subject matter experts would be interviewed,
> rather than consumers themselves. So the kind of information
> obtained would be different. That's not to say that a large-scale
> research project involving consumer surveys would not be valuable,
> just that telephone interviews with selected individuals may produce
> useful results in 2009 that could help focus the work more quickly.
> So now I'm wondering whether I should even consider making a
> supplementary budget request for 2009 solely for the benefit of the
> Consumer Identity WG. Could the two approaches perhaps be combined,
> so that work in 2009 consists of more than just a literature survey,
> while deferring consumer surveys until next year? Or would that
> just be too unwieldy? Any thoughts?
> Bob Pinheiro
> Chair, Consumer Identity WG
> kantara at bobpinheiro.com
> J. Trent Adams wrote:
>> Iain -
>> Can you tackle a paragraph that addresses Ken's point?
>> I believe you have more than enough expressed interest from other
>> WGs to
>> satisfy his comment, but it'll probably need to be more clearly
>> If so, do you think you can get this done quickly enough to keep it
>> the voting track for tomorrow?
>> - Trent
>> Salzberg, Kenneth M wrote:
>>> In reading the proposal, there is one thing that stands out as a
>>> potential issue for me.
>>> In the Exec Summary the following statement is made:
>>> "The ultimate aim is to produce a statistically valid body or
>>> research available to
>>> consortia partners that will enable product/ service design for
>>> those wishing to deploy
>>> and engage with user-centric/ user-driven identities."
>>> In the Kanatara benefit section it states:
>>> "This project seeks to build and enable genuine thought leadership
>>> across technology,
>>> business model, regulatory and user experience in the digital
>>> identity realm."
>>> The issue I have is that I question the use of Kantara funds to
>>> drive development of member products and services, which does not
>>> seem appropriate to me. This could certainly be a side benefit,
>>> but not the direct purpose.
>>> I agree that the thought leadership is a worthy goal, but is a bit
>>> weak on its own.
>>> What I would like to see is something that shows how this research
>>> will help drive/market work being done in one or more WGs.
>>> Ken Salzberg, Technology Manager
>>> Integrated Platforms Research, Intel Labs
>>> ken.salzberg at intel.com 503.264.8276 JF2-58
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: lc-bounces at kantarainitiative.org [mailto:lc-bounces at kantarainitiative.org
>>> ] On Behalf Of J. Trent Adams
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 2:27 PM
>>> To: LC at kantarainitiative.org
>>> Subject: Re: [KI-LC] UDVPI-WG Supplemental Budget Request
>>> All -
>>> I would like to ask everyone to make an attempt to attend tomorrow's
>>> scheduled Leadership Council teleconference in order to achieve
>>> During the call I would like to see if we can approve the
>>> budget request that was put on the table last week by the UDVPI-WG.
>>> I assume that everyone has had a chance to ask the necessary
>>> during the past week, and it's important to try and close this out
>>> the work can begin.
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>> J. Trent Adams wrote:
>>>> All -
>>>> As you saw in the agenda for tomorrow's LC teleconference, Iain has
>>>> submitted a Supplemental Budget Request for 2009 on behalf of the
>>>> This request is to help fund the preliminary phase of a proposed
>>>> research project with the ultimate goal being to:
>>>> "produce a statistically valid body or research
>>>> available to consortia partners that will enable
>>>> product / service design for those wishing to
>>>> deploy and engage with user-centric / user-
>>>> driven identities."
>>>> ISOC has independently allocated US$4,000 to help fund this initial
>>>> phase, and the request is for an additional US$5,000 from Kantara.
>>>> The following KI WGs have already expressed interest in the work:
>>>> * Privacy & Public Policy
>>>> * User Managed Access
>>>> * eGov
>>>> * Consumer Identity
>>>> Unfortunately, Iain will not be able to attend the call tomorrow,
>>>> so it
>>>> would help if you could review the document in advance and send
>>>> him (or
>>>> reply to the list) with any immediate questions. We can pick up
>>>> discussion on the call and see what we need to do from there,
>>>> that any questions requiring Iain will need to be deferred.
>>> J. Trent Adams
>>> Outreach Specialist, Trust & Identity
>>> Internet Society
>>> e) adams at isoc.org
>>> o) 703-439-2149
>>> LC mailing list
>>> LC at kantarainitiative.org
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