[KI-LC] Fwd: [Staff] UMA F2F before IIW

Eve Maler eve at xmlgrrl.com
Wed Oct 28 18:31:00 EDT 2009



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> From: Eve Maler <eve at xmlgrrl.com>
> Date: 28 October 2009 12:37:18 PM PDT
> To: "Dervla O'Reilly" <dervla at kantarainitiative.org>
> Cc: Kantara Staff list <staff at kantarainitiative.org>
> Subject: Re: [Staff] UMA F2F before IIW
>
> Great to know!  In case this is of interest as "pre-feedback" before  
> having seen the written guidance, here is what I've done to prepare.
>
> - We're not anticipating a lot of walkups due to the nature, timing,  
> and location of the meeting.  I'll blog it ahead of time (tomorrow)  
> and ask anyone who's thinking of attending to get in touch ASAP.
>
> - I therefore haven't made a sign, but will watch carefully, in my  
> chair role, to ensure that I can positively identify every attendee  
> and put them into buckets: existing participant, new participant who  
> has signed in some fashion, or new person who has agreed to remain a  
> silent observer.
>
> - I doctored the document you sent me with the following handwritten  
> notations, and will make a few Xerox copies ahead of time:
>   . Page 1: I gave it a headline of IPR "Liberty Option" and also  
> wrote that it Applies to participation in Kantara User-Managed  
> Access WG
>   . Page 5 (last page): I added fields as follows (I still don't  
> like "active" vs. "observer" for the voting/non-voting distinction,  
> and thus haven't used those words! what would I call true passive  
> observers, then?...):
>     - EMAIL FOR LIST SUBSCRIPTION: __________
>     - PARTICIPATION LENGTH: [ ] ONGOING [ ] TODAY ONLY
>     - PARTICIPATION STATUS: [ ] VOTING [ ] NON-VOTING
>
> - I printed out the current KI membership roster to have on hand (I  
> don't currently have the names of the primary reps, though)
>
> - Finally, I printed out some supporting materials to have on hand  
> in case anyone wants chapter and verse:
>   . The online "Join This Group" page
>   . The charter for the group
>   . The IPR Options page
>
> Let me know if I'm missing anything.  Thanks...
>
> 	Eve
>
> On 27 Oct 2009, at 12:00 PM, Dervla O'Reilly wrote:
>
>> I sent my guidance draft to Roger and Trent, hope to have that  
>> turned around shortly.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Dervla
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>> On Oct 23, 2009, at 9:30 AM, Brett McDowell wrote:
>>
>>> Excellent point.
>>>
>>> I'd like to ask Dervla to take the lead on drafting that guidance  
>>> page (Dervla, can you take that on before IIW?).  We'll get review  
>>> from Trent and Roger S. (as reps from the "two houses") and then  
>>> promote it as "policy".
>>>
>>>
>>> Brett McDowell | http://info.brettmcdowell.com | http://kantarainitiative.org
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 11:17 AM, Eve Maler <eve at xmlgrrl.com> wrote:
>>> Good point! It sounds like we have enough material here for a  
>>> guidance page on the wiki. :-) Anyone up for that?... With IIW  
>>> coming and other conferences ahead, ad hoc KI group meetings are  
>>> sure to follow, so guidance would be good to have.
>>>
>>> 	Eve
>>>
>>> On 23 Oct 2009, at 8:14 AM, Brett McDowell wrote:
>>>
>>>> And there's one more important point I don't see being  
>>>> discussed... remember in Las Vegas we had those little stickers?  
>>>> (don't worry, I'm not suggesting stickers)  I want to remind  
>>>> everyone why we had the stickers.  It was so the Chair knew who  
>>>> was in the room who HAD NOT SIGNED any GPA or IPR agreement.  In  
>>>> other words, it's TOTALLY FINE to have folks in the meeting who  
>>>> have signed nothing.  The only caveat is the Chair needs to be  
>>>> mindful of those folks and exercise their professional judgement  
>>>> to disallow them from contributing what would be un-licensed (and  
>>>> perhaps un-licensable) IPR into the groups' output.
>>>>
>>>> Does that make sense?
>>>>
>>>> P.S.
>>>> If you get attendees who are not members I would also like to  
>>>> know so I can follow-up with them and start a recruiting effort  
>>>> to bring them onboard.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Brett McDowell | http://info.brettmcdowell.com | http://kantarainitiative.org
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 10:18 AM, Eve Maler <eve at xmlgrrl.com>  
>>>> wrote:
>>>> Thanks! In this case, maybe that list of primary members would be  
>>>> helpful, just in case. But honestly, I don't anticipate a lot of  
>>>> walkups since the IIW conference isn't going on that day. (I'll  
>>>> get the word out to the community that contacting me first is a  
>>>> good idea for new people.)
>>>>
>>>> 	Eve
>>>>
>>>> On 22 Oct 2009, at 6:41 PM, Joni Brennan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 5:48 PM, Eve Maler <eve at xmlgrrl.com>  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Ah, this document is just the "Option Liberty" text, is that  
>>>>> right?
>>>>> Cool.  And I assume I can also mark on the form (or simply ask  
>>>>> them)
>>>>> whether they want to be a voting ("active") or non-voting  
>>>>> ("observer")
>>>>> participant going forward?
>>>>>
>>>>> That's not on the form Derv sent so yes you can ask them and  
>>>>> mark it down.
>>>>>
>>>>> If anyone whose company is a KI member but isn't yet a participant
>>>>> shows up, do I have to actually call their primary member person
>>>>> before I can let them in?
>>>>>
>>>>> Even if their company is a KI member and even if they are  
>>>>> already in other groups we need the primary authority for any  
>>>>> new group joined.  Yes, and they should be able to make that  
>>>>> call for you - while you are with them I suppose.  That's how we  
>>>>> did a few in LV.  If you know of any ahead of time that will  
>>>>> help so maybe Dervla can reach out to them before the event.
>>>>>
>>>>> PS - we also used some judgement like for Gael who could not  
>>>>> reach Aude in France.  We let him sign and got the approval  
>>>>> afterward.  It's most important that they sign if they want to  
>>>>> join the group or if they want to contribute IP.  If they just  
>>>>> want to be in the room I would not force signing upon them.
>>>>>
>>>>> If they are not members of KI already then they can self assert  
>>>>> their own authority to sign.  I know this is going to be a great  
>>>>> event for you guys =).
>>>>>
>>>>> thx!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks...
>>>>>
>>>>>        Eve
>>>>>
>>>>> On 22 Oct 2009, at 4:23 PM, Dervla O'Reilly wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > Eve,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Great stuff!
>>>>> >
>>>>> > If you can make note of the attendance and share with me, that  
>>>>> would
>>>>> > be terrific.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Newcomers who have not already signed the GPA and are not  
>>>>> members
>>>>> > will need to sign the attached file.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I see you have a potential attendees list.  For those  
>>>>> newcomers to
>>>>> > your group who are already members, you will need to reach the
>>>>> > primary contact of that member company.  I can send you the  
>>>>> primary
>>>>> > member list if you wish.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Otherwise, I think we're good.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Regards,
>>>>> > Dervla
>>>>> > Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> > <KANTARA INITIATIVE IPR>
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > You'll probably want to have reference to the primary contact
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Oct 22, 2009, at 1:54 PM, Eve Maler wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> Hi folks-- My UMA group is planning to hold a F2F meeting at  
>>>>> the
>>>>> >> Computer History Museum on Monday afternoon, 2 Nov 2009; the  
>>>>> IIW
>>>>> >> organizers kindly agreed we could meet on-site that day.  I'm
>>>>> >> prepared
>>>>> >> to provide a sign and a signup sheet to manage the group
>>>>> >> participation
>>>>> >> agreement aspects.  Is there anything else I need to do?   
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>      Eve
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Eve Maler
>>>>> >> eve at xmlgrrl.com
>>>>> >> http://www.xmlgrrl.com/blog
>>>>> >>
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>>>>> Eve Maler
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>>>>> http://www.xmlgrrl.com/blog
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>>>>>
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Joni Brennan
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Eve Maler
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Eve Maler
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