[KI-LC] Telecon Reminder for October 21 at 15:00 UTC

Bob Pinheiro kantara at bobpinheiro.com
Wed Oct 21 09:53:14 EDT 2009

There still seems to be a disparity between the eligibility rules for 
who is allowed to vote in roll-call votes taken during a meeting, versus 
electronic votes.  Suppose a member in non-voting status due to 
non-attendance receives two emails.  One announces that a roll-call vote 
will be taken on Measure X at the next meeting.  The other announces 
that an electronic voting period has just begun on Measure Y.  The 
proposed rules say that the non-voting member cannot vote in the 
electronic ballot, but can vote in the roll-call ballot merely by 
showing up at the meeting, which automatically restores voting status.  
I see no reason why this non-voting member should be allowed to 
participate in an upcoming roll-call vote merely by showing up, but is 
not allowed to participate in the electronic vote.

If one were to conclude that the very act of announcing an upcoming 
roll-call vote means that the motion has now been placed "on the table", 
then I think the rules would be equivalent.  But that doesn't seem to be 
the case.   Maybe this can be resolved by requiring sufficient 
notification that an electronic ballot is upcoming, thereby allowing a 
non-voting member to regain voting status by attending the next meeting, 
which would have to occur before the electronic vote is initiated. 


J. Trent Adams wrote:
> All -
> Here is your reminder for this week's Leadership Council teleconference:
>     * Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2009
>     * Time: 8am PDT | 11am EDT | 15:00 UTC [1]
>     * Teleconference Options:
>           o Skype: +9900827043671716
>           o US Dial-In: +1-201-793-9022 | Room Code: 3671716
> With the full text of a couple proposed motions, you might find the wiki
> version of the agenda more readable:
> http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/x/xwJAAg
> If you can't access the wiki for some reason, here's a trimmed down
> version that should be easier to track:
>    1. Roll Call for Quorum Determination
>    2. Approval of prior meeting minutes
>          a. Review: Leadership Council Teleconference - 2009-10-14 [2]
>    3. Assurance Review Board Briefing (David Temoshok, Nathan Faut)
>    4. LC to vote on the OP/Bylaws changes approved by the BoT
>          a. PROPOSED MOTION: Approval of Amendments to Operating
> Procedures for All Member Ballot
>          b. (see wiki for full text)
>          c. Next Step: All member ballot
>    5. InfoSharing WG Charter Change
>          a. Review: InfoSharing WG Charter [3]
>          b. (see wiki for full text)
>    6. Prososed WG: Liberty Specification Maintenance Working Group (LSM WG)
>          a. Review: Liberty Specification Maintenance Working Group
> Charter [4]
>          b. Discussion
>          c. Vote Date: No later than October 29, 2009
>    7. Proposed WG: Identity Services Working Group (IS WG)
>          a. Review: Identity Services Working Group Charter [5]
>          b. NOTE: Initial draft charter was submitted on September 22,
> 2009,
>              but was incomplete.  No further draft was submitted, and
> 30-day
>              window closes October 22, 2009.
>          c. Vote Date: MUST BE HELD ON CALL
>    8. AOB
> Talk to you then.
> - Trent
> [1]
> http://timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=10&day=21&year=2009&hour=15&min=0&sec=0&p1=0&sort=2
> [2]
> http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/LC/Leadership+Council+Teleconference+-+2009-10-14
> [3] http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/infosharing/Charter
> [4] http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/WGLSM/Charter
> [5]
> http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/LC/Proposed+Charter+-+Identity+Services+WG

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