<div dir="ltr">Colin,<div><br></div><div>Thank you for forwarding this document.</div><div><br></div><div>To my mind, the proposed model is far too complex and seeks to combine logical, physical and market models that are better segregated into separate layers.</div>
<div><br></div><div>In the proposed ISO model, the domain &quot;IoT Systems&quot; appears to be a superset of components such as &quot;Sensors&quot; and &quot;Things&#39;Objects&quot;. &nbsp;How can the system and its components be equal domains in an architecture? &nbsp;Similarly, &quot;Markets&quot; appears to be a superset of components &quot;Service Providers&quot; and &quot;Customers.&quot;</div>
<div><br></div><div>I believe that the proposed model is ill-conceived and lacks much input from diverse sources.</div><div><br></div><div>I think that the model that our DG has been working on is more likely to provide a useful reference architecture -- though we have focused primarily on the logical layer.</div>
<div><br></div><div>If ISO does go forward with this proposal, how do we keep them from accepting this mish-mash?<br></div><div><br></div><div>Jeff</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 11:35 PM, Colin Wallis <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:colin_wallis@hotmail.com" target="_blank">colin_wallis@hotmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
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<div><div dir="ltr">Folks<br>
I think I am able to share this because it has not yet received a project number from ISO (i.e.not yet voted as a project accepted by National Bodies).<br>
Enjoy.. :-)<br>
Comments welcome.<br>
Cheers<br>
Colin&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;<br>
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From: <a href="mailto:sal@idmachines.com" target="_blank">sal@idmachines.com</a><br>To: <a href="mailto:sshorter@electrosoft-inc.com" target="_blank">sshorter@electrosoft-inc.com</a><br>Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2013 15:52:15 -0500<br>
CC: <a href="mailto:dg-idot@kantarainitiative.org" target="_blank">dg-idot@kantarainitiative.org</a><br>Subject: Re: [DG-IDoT] snmp for security devices<br><br>


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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 17, 2013 2:07 PM<br><b>To:</b> Salvatore D&#39;Agostino<br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:dg-idot@kantarainitiative.org" target="_blank">dg-idot@kantarainitiative.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [DG-IDoT] snmp for security devices</span></p>
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<p>Thanks Sal, very helpful presentation.</p>
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<p>Slide 9 makes me sad, though. &nbsp;MD5 and DES should be extinct. &nbsp;Algorithm flexibility, please!</p></div>
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<p>On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 1:01 PM, Salvatore D&#39;Agostino &lt;<a href="mailto:sal@idmachines.com" target="_blank">sal@idmachines.com</a>&gt; wrote:</p>
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<p>All,</p>
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<p>I think I may have already sent this to the list.&nbsp; It is what I talked to on the call.&nbsp; There is a presentation with further background on the page.</p>
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<p><a href="http://www.siaonline.org/Pages/Standards/SNMP-Subcommittee.aspx" target="_blank">http://www.siaonline.org/Pages/Standards/SNMP-Subcommittee.aspx</a> </p>
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<p>Happy holidays.</p>
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<p>Sal</p>
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<p><span style="COLOR:#595959">Salvatore D&#39;Agostino, CSCIP</span></p>
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<p>-- <br>Scott Shorter,&nbsp;Principal Security Engineer, Electrosoft Services Inc.</p>
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