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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Terry, Jeff, Ingo,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Very good set of points Terry.&nbsp; Leakage in particular.&nbsp; UMA might help in that regard.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Identities of things is an interesting topic not the least in the sense that you have device, owners and users all of which bring their identities into things.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I would be interested in the panel as well.&nbsp; I have some experience around SCADA and transport to help bring those perspectives. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Look forward to the DG.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Sal<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> dg-idot-bounces@kantarainitiative.org [mailto:dg-idot-bounces@kantarainitiative.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Terry Gold<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, July 02, 2013 9:13 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'j stollman'; Ingo.Friese@telekom.de<br><b>Cc:</b> 'Joni Brennan'; dg-idot@kantarainitiative.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [DG-IDoT] FW: RSA U.S. Call for Speakers Now Open! Submit Today!<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'>Hi Jeff-<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'>I think you are spot-on. We can continue to define technical frameworks (and we will ;-) but the big storm brewing is:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>a)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'>The convenience and pervasiveness of connected services<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>b)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'>Collection and monetization of data (can debate and categorize what is PII or not and how it is still usable, etc)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>c)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'>Identity ownership and control s: evolution, impact, possibilities<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>d)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'>Challenges and impact on business models, and individuals as this battle looms.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'>From my perspective, there are four levels to this dilemma that should be reviewed/clarified for the audience:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>1.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'>Legacy models like the credit bureaus. They have long collecting everything, are bureaucratic, and monetize data in many ways. Facebook&#8217;s monetization model isn&#8217;t new just the way they collect it.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>2.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'>Opt-in relationships: Such as Facebook. We may be opted-in when we sign up (don&#8217;t agree with that by the way) but we do consciously sign up for the relationship and is intended to share on some level (unlike my mortgage account or my vehicle records or services).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>3.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'>Leakage: The usage of a service that does not disclose that it is collecting data, or irresponsibly leaks your data to another service (lots of mobile apps are quite &#8220;chatty&#8221; in this way). Basically, any that are &#8220;free&#8221; apps, are doing this so (and not disclosing) it&#8217;s a BIG problem.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>4.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'>Government Surveillance: PRISM, etc. For me, the debate on this is two-fold, not only the legality but the controlled usage of any collected data. Obvious, but just to point out. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'>I am interested in collaborating and/or participating in the panel as well, up to you. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'>Terry<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>-------------------------------<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Terry Gold<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>iDanalyst LLC, </span></b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Founder</span></i><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Identity, Security &amp; Privacy<o:p></o:p></span></i></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>t: 213-341-0433<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>m: 949-310-5911<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="mailto:tgold@IDanalyst.com">tgold@IDanalyst.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.idanalyst.com/">www.IDanalyst.com</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Twitter: @IDanalyst<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:dg-idot-bounces@kantarainitiative.org">dg-idot-bounces@kantarainitiative.org</a> [<a href="mailto:dg-idot-bounces@kantarainitiative.org">mailto:dg-idot-bounces@kantarainitiative.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>j stollman<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, July 02, 2013 5:50 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:Ingo.Friese@telekom.de">Ingo.Friese@telekom.de</a><br><b>Cc:</b> Joni Brennan; <a href="mailto:dg-idot@kantarainitiative.org">dg-idot@kantarainitiative.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [DG-IDoT] FW: RSA U.S. Call for Speakers Now Open! Submit Today!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Ingo,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>My personal bias would be to have a panel discussion on the implications of IoT on privacy. &nbsp;(We can submit more than one proposal and hold more than one panel.)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>And I think some of the questions that we have already begun discussing (e.g., who controls the data for a ca?, will &quot;things&quot; have their own personal cloud or be part of a person's cloud?) that could provide fodder for a captivating discussion. &nbsp;. &nbsp;(We can submit more than one proposal and hold more than one panel.)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I have already begun drafting a proposal for a panel for which I am interested in other panelists. &nbsp;I have attached a draft. &nbsp;If you are interested in participating, let me know.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Jeff<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 7:03 AM, &lt;<a href="mailto:Ingo.Friese@telekom.de" target="_blank">Ingo.Friese@telekom.de</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hi all,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>We&#8217;d like to propose a KI panel discussion at RSA 2014 around IDoT. This would be a great opportunity for our group to promote/discuss/get feedback for our work.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Joni was as friendly as to bring up this chance. She will help us to finish a one-pager for a proposed session. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:aut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o-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Do you think its possible as a start?&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I hope you get the opp AND selected!!<br><br>On Monday, July 1, 2013, wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Joni,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I&#8217;d love to. Great opportunity to introduce / discuss / get feedback for IDoT!</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Ingo</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:lc-bounces@kantarainitiative.org">lc-bounces@kantarainitiative.org</a> [<a href="mailto:lc-bounces@kantarainitiative.org">mailto:lc-bounces@kantarainitiative.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Joni Brennan<br><b>Sent:</b> Donnerstag, 27. Juni 2013 18:55<br><b>To:</b> Nat Sakimura<br><b>Cc:</b> Kantara Leadership Council Kantara; <a href="mailto:trustees@kantarainitiative.org">trustees@kantarainitiative.org</a>; <a href="mailto:irb@kantarainitiative.org">irb@kantarainitiative.org</a>; arb<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [KI-LC] [BoT] Fwd: U.S. Call for Speakers Now Open! Submit Today!</span><o:p></o:p></p><p>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><div><p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>In the same track of thought Nat, and in addition to Colin's well placed usual suspect assurance discussion, I think the Kantara IDoT might make some early proposal around Privacy, Big-Data and Identity of Things.&nbsp; Ingo would you be interested?&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p><div><p>Joni Brennan<br>Kantara Initiative | Executive Director<br>voice:<a href="tel:%2B1%20732-226-4223" target="_blank">+1 732-226-4223</a><br>email: joni @ <a href="http://kantarainitiative.org" target="_blank">kantarainitiative.org</a><br><br>Building Trusted Identity Ecosystems - It takes a village! <br>Slides: <a href="http://bit.ly/ki-june-2013" target="_blank">http://bit.ly/ki-june-2013</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><div><p>On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 9:21 AM, Nat Sakimura &lt;<a href="mailto:sakimura@gmail.com" target="_blank">sakimura@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><p>I am wondering if RSA is security only event.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><div><p>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p>When you talk about Big Data etc., you cannot dodge the privacy questions.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p>That might be another interesting topic.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><div><p>2013/6/27 Colin Wallis &lt;<a href="mailto:colin_wallis@hotmail.com" target="_blank">colin_wallis@hotmail.com</a>&gt;<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><p>I'm thinking there might be&nbsp;a play at the higher LOA approval level here.. a kind of Kantara Assurance. BBFA, MACCSA joint play.<br>The slight problem is that&nbsp;*that* thinking might be slightly premature (thinking of the July MACCSA meeting) ..<br>But I'm thinking that the RSA audience would find it&nbsp;interesting and offers&nbsp;presenting organizations a way to showcase an opportunity for the&nbsp;audience organizations to play in&nbsp;what is probably a new space for most&nbsp;of them... (says he choosing his words carefully..:-))&nbsp;<br>Cheers<br>Colin<o:p></o:p></p><div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></div><p>From: <a href="mailto:joni@ieee-isto.org" target="_blank">joni@ieee-isto.org</a><br>Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 11:34:19 -0700<br>To: <a href="mailto:trustees@kantarainitiative.org" target="_blank">trustees@kantarainitiative.org</a>; <a href="mailto:LC@kantarainitiative.org" target="_blank">LC@kantarainitiative.org</a>; <a href="mailto:arb@kantarainitiative.org" target="_blank">arb@kantarainitiative.org</a>; <a href="mailto:irb@kantarainitiative.org" target="_blank">irb@kantarainitiative.org</a><br>Subject: [KI-LC] Fwd: U.S. Call for Speakers Now Open! Submit Today!<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><p><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Dear All,<br>Which Kantara stakeholders seek to work toward Kantara proposals for RSA SFO 2014?&nbsp; Which WGs / DGs will seek to submit their own proposals? </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>The call opens now and closes July 25. </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Best Regards,<br>Joni</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><p><span style='font-size:18.0pt'><br><a href="http://www.rsaconference.com/?utm_source=exacttarget&amp;utm_medium=CFS&amp;utm_content=logo-header&amp;utm_campaign=CFSEmail1" target="_blank">RSA&reg; Conference </a></span><br><br>Stay Connected<br><br><a href="http://www.linkedin.com/company/rsa-conference" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a><br><a href="https://twitter.com/RSAconference" target="_blank">Twitter </a><br><a href="http://www.youtube.com/rsaconference" target="_blank">YouTube </a><br><a href="https://www.facebook.com/rsaconference" target="_blank">Facebook </a><o:p></o:p></p><p><a href="http://www.rsaconference.com/events/ap13?utm_source=exacttarget&amp;utm_medium=CFS&amp;utm_content=apac-banner&amp;utm_campaign=CFSEmail1" target="_blank">Asia Pacific</a><br><a href="http://www.rsaconference.com/events/eu13?utm_source=exacttarget&amp;utm_medium=CFS&amp;utm_content=europe-banner&amp;utm_campaign=CFSEmail1" target="_blank">Europe </a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#888888'><br><br>-- <br>Joni Brennan<br>Kantara Initiative | Executive Director<br>voice:<a href="tel:%2B1%20732-226-4223" target="_blank">+1 732-226-4223</a><br>email: joni @ <a href="http://kantarainitiative.org" target="_blank">kantarainitiative.org</a><br><br>Building Trusted Identity Ecosystems - It takes a village! <br>Slides: <a href="http://bit.ly/ki-june-2013" target="_blank">http://bit.ly/ki-june-2013</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>_______________________________________________<br>DG-IDoT mailing list<br><a href="mailto:DG-IDoT@kantarainitiative.org">DG-IDoT@kantarainitiative.org</a><br><a href="http://kantarainitiative.org/mailman/listinfo/dg-idot" target="_blank">http://kantarainitiative.org/mailman/listinfo/dg-idot</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>-- <br>Jeff Stollman<br><a href="mailto:stollman.j@gmail.com" target="_blank">stollman.j@gmail.com</a><br>1 202.683.8699<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";background:white'>Truth never triumphs &#8212; its opponents just die out.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";background:white'>Science advances one funeral at a time.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";background:white'>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Max Planck</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></body></html>