[DG-IDoT] Common identity standard
pmadsen at pingidentity.com
Fri Jul 24 07:33:02 CDT 2015
I interpreted 'translate' to mean 'how do we convert an identity
provisioned into a device at manufacture time into an identity more
appropriate to present to applications' :-)
On 7/24/15 8:26 AM, Ingo.Friese at telekom.de wrote:
> How ever you call it J….the question was:” how do we translate one
> identity into another?”
> “by this is that humans have SSN as an identity while a thermostat may
> have serial number while a network device may have a Mac ID as their
> When you know the endpoints you have the issue of different
> communication protocols, and semantics.
> In WONDER, a EU project we tested “protocol on the fly”. Here one
> party can on demand load a missing protocol stub.
> The home gateway initiative defined a Smart Device Template.
> Manufacturer of a device can describe the functions/options of their
> *From:*dg-idot-bounces at kantarainitiative.org
> [mailto:dg-idot-bounces at kantarainitiative.org] *On Behalf Of *Paul Madsen
> *Sent:* Freitag, 24. Juli 2015 14:07
> *To:* dg-idot at kantarainitiative.org
> *Subject:* Re: [DG-IDoT] Common identity standard
> was Ranjan actually asking about discovery? :-)
> On 7/24/15 8:05 AM, Ingo.Friese at telekom.de
> <mailto:Ingo.Friese at telekom.de> wrote:
> Hi Ranjan,
> I’m not sure to have one standard way to finding things.
> What we discussed in the group was a kind of “Google combined with
> p2p discovery” for things. This service might be operated by
> several companies/communities etc. like DNS.
> Everything has relationships that describe things (e.g. is owned
> by Ingo, located in Berlin, run by DT, etc.) So you can find a
> communication endpoint for the thing itself.
> The beauty of a mechanisms like this is it works for all kind of
> protocols and all form of identifier.
> On top of finding things we can establish mechanisms, to
> authenticate, to build trust etc.
> Best Ingo
> *From:*Ranjan Jain (ranjain) [mailto:ranjain at cisco.com]
> *Sent:* Donnerstag, 16. Juli 2015 20:39
> *To:* Friese, Ingo; stollman.j at gmail.com <mailto:stollman.j at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* dg-idot at kantarainitiative.org
> <mailto:dg-idot at kantarainitiative.org>
> *Subject:* Common identity standard
> Hey y’all,
> Hope everyone is doing well. Just wanted to bounce a question
> which I’m consistently getting asked around Identity, IoT
> perspective. Is there any industry standard in place or in works
> which can be used as a common standard across multiple identities.
> What I mean by this is that humans have SSN as an identity while a
> thermostat may have serial number while a network device may have
> a Mac ID as their identity. So, while individually they all have
> their own identity standard, when in the IoT world, all these
> entities start interacting with each other, how do we translate
> one identity into another or how will one identity interact with
> another identity in a standards way?
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