[DG-IDoT] Common identity standard

Paul Madsen pmadsen at pingidentity.com
Fri Jul 24 07:33:02 CDT 2015


I interpreted 'translate' to mean 'how do we convert an identity 
provisioned into a device at manufacture time into an identity more 
appropriate to present to applications' :-)

On 7/24/15 8:26 AM, Ingo.Friese at telekom.de wrote:
>
> How ever you call it J….the question was:” how do we translate one 
> identity into another?”
>
> “by this is that humans have SSN as an identity while a thermostat may 
> have serial number while a network device may have a Mac ID as their 
> identity…
>
> When you know the endpoints you have the issue of different 
> communication protocols, and semantics.
>
> In WONDER, a EU project we tested “protocol on the fly”. Here one 
> party can on demand load a missing protocol stub.
>
> The home gateway initiative defined a Smart Device Template. 
> Manufacturer of a device can describe the functions/options of their 
> device.
>
> *From:*dg-idot-bounces at kantarainitiative.org 
> [mailto:dg-idot-bounces at kantarainitiative.org] *On Behalf Of *Paul Madsen
> *Sent:* Freitag, 24. Juli 2015 14:07
> *To:* dg-idot at kantarainitiative.org
> *Subject:* Re: [DG-IDoT] Common identity standard
>
> was Ranjan actually asking about discovery? :-)
>
> On 7/24/15 8:05 AM, Ingo.Friese at telekom.de 
> <mailto:Ingo.Friese at telekom.de> wrote:
>
>     Hi Ranjan,
>
>     I’m not sure to have one standard way to finding things.
>
>     What we discussed in the group was a kind of “Google combined with
>     p2p discovery” for things. This service might be operated by
>     several companies/communities etc. like DNS.
>
>     Everything has relationships that describe things (e.g. is owned
>     by Ingo, located in Berlin, run by DT, etc.) So you can find a
>     communication endpoint for the thing itself.
>
>     The beauty of a  mechanisms like this is it works for all kind of
>     protocols and all form of identifier.
>
>     On top of finding things we can establish mechanisms, to
>     authenticate, to build trust etc.
>
>     Best Ingo
>
>     *From:*Ranjan Jain (ranjain) [mailto:ranjain at cisco.com]
>     *Sent:* Donnerstag, 16. Juli 2015 20:39
>     *To:* Friese, Ingo; stollman.j at gmail.com <mailto:stollman.j at gmail.com>
>     *Cc:* dg-idot at kantarainitiative.org
>     <mailto:dg-idot at kantarainitiative.org>
>     *Subject:* Common identity standard
>
>     Hey y’all,
>
>     Hope everyone is doing well. Just wanted to bounce a question
>     which I’m consistently getting asked around Identity, IoT
>     perspective. Is there any industry standard in place or in works
>     which can be used as a common standard across multiple identities.
>     What I mean by this is that humans have SSN as an identity while a
>     thermostat may have serial number while a network device may have
>     a Mac ID as their identity. So, while individually they all have
>     their own identity standard, when in the IoT world, all these
>     entities start interacting with each other, how do we translate
>     one identity into another or how will one identity interact with
>     another identity in a standards way?
>
>     Thanks
>
>     Ranjan
>
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