[DG-IDoT] Terminology discussion

Ingo.Friese at telekom.de Ingo.Friese at telekom.de
Mon Feb 3 09:16:15 CST 2014


Hi Andrew,
Hi Sal,

Andrew, an OWL for the IDoT would be great. Very good idea.

For the beginning we have few terms from existing terminologies (e.g. http://www.iot-a.eu/public/terminology). Thanks Sal!

Here we have a for example a reference to: Sensor, Actuator and Gateway
But at other points all these resources are rather unspecific.
Here we have to find/discuss an appropriate terminology.
On the other hand we do not have to define everything. I see maximum 3 to 5 terms we have to start with.
Then we can describe already a lot of identity concepts around IoT.

Ingo
 






-----Original Message-----
From: Salvatore D'Agostino [mailto:sal at idmachines.com] 
Sent: Montag, 3. Februar 2014 05:15
To: 'Andrew Hughes'; 'Ingo Friese'
Cc: Friese, Ingo; dg-idot at kantarainitiative.org
Subject: RE: [DG-IDoT] Terminology discussion

I think I put a few of these out to the thread.  I appreciate Ingo's
comments in that the identities perspective may not be well covered
nonetheless let's consider;

http://www.iot-a.eu/public/terminology 

http://www.industry.siemens.com/topics/global/en/industrial-security/support
/pages/glossary.aspx 

http://www.matrikonopc.com/resources/dictionary.aspx  

http://www.psialliance.org/AreaControlOverview.html  

IEC 61850 on electric substations. for starters of the top of my head, I
will dive in further, I will put these in a resources page on the wiki

and please others on list contribute.

Regards,

Sal
From: Andrew Hughes [mailto:andrewhughes3000 at gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2014 1:23 PM
To: Ingo Friese
Cc: Salvatore D'Agostino; <Ingo.Friese at telekom.de>;
dg-idot at kantarainitiative.org
Subject: Re: [DG-IDoT] Terminology discussion

These articles are from a quick google search - I only read the abstracts so
cannot comment on content. Just food for thought. 

If these are not of use, please disregard

http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=2093193
http://www.semantic-web-journal.net/sites/default/files/swj247_0.pdf
http://semanticweb.com/34702_b34702


On Saturday, February 1, 2014, Andrew Hughes <andrewhughes3000 at gmail.com>
wrote:
Hi Ingo - I agree, and wasn't aware you had done the scan

Does anyone have thoughts about creating an ontology for this and publishing
it for anyone to use?

I want to / need to learn OWL in the next couple months and am willing to
create this in parallel to this group. Parallel so I don't hinder your
progress. This seems to be small enough scope to be manageable. 

Thoughts?
Andrew

On Saturday, February 1, 2014, Ingo Friese <ingo.friese at gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Andrew,
Hi Sal,

I think the terminology is just a pre condition for discussing Identity
concepts. If there are already defined and widely terms...lets use them.
I had a Look in different SDOs but I'havent found really good fitting stuff
here. Do You know a good Source for terminology?

Ingo

> Am 31.01.2014 um 22:59 schrieb "Salvatore D'Agostino"
<sal at idmachines.com>:
>
> +1 Andrew,
>
>
https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/IDoT/Concepts+of+Identity+w
> ithin+the+Internet+of+Things
>
> "The purpose of this paper is to describe identity concepts in the
Internet
> of Things. Identity mechanisms in the Internet of Things are different
from
> those in the classic web.
>
> Furthermore this paper proposes a terminology for Identity management in
the
> Internet of Things. This should help to facilitate discussions and work in
> this area without the need to define basic terms again."
>
> Agree we don't need to propose a terminology.  Trying to wean any
> conversation about terminology out of my existence in fact ;-)
>
> So maybe we can work on the abstract text before we go any further.
>
> I like wading into identifiers as Scott has done.   (I just trimmed a
> sentence and would like to talk more about this section).
>
>
>
>
> From: dg-idot-bounces at kantarainitiative.org
> [mailto:dg-idot-bounces at kantarainitiative.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hughes
> Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 3:31 PM
> To: Ingo.Friese at telekom.de
> Cc: dg-idot at kantarainitiative.org
> Subject: Re: [DG-IDoT] Terminology discussion
>
> Hi Ingo - I'm lurking on the list so have probably missed the context if
the
> terminology discussion.
>
> Having just experienced a couple of drawn out vocabulary working groups, I
> am wondering why IDoT is not attempting to simply adopt a
> vocabulary/ontology/list of terms from any of the IoT specific groups.
>
> Then, the focus here could be extensions to deal with the ID aspects...
>
> Andrew.
>
> On Friday, January 31, 2014, <Ingo.Friese at telekom.de> wrote:
> Dear All,
>
> Jeff started with Sensor, Actuator and Processor. I'd like to extend this
> model a bit. Because I think the processor could be either near to the
> actuator (e.g. the processor in a house regulates the heating because of
> sensor data.
> This "intelligence" could also be somewhere in the cloud/internet. The
> processor could be a service on a server somewhere or and app on a
> smartphone.
> So I'd like to add an IoT instance in the network.
>
> A second point are intermediates or gateways (names are to be discussed).
> Because many solutions have one or more instances between sensor/actuator
an
> the service in the cloud. Here e.g. several sensors are concentrated.
>
> What do you think?
>
> Best,
>                 Ingo
>
>
>
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Independent Consultant
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+1 250.888.9474
1249 Palmer Road,
Victoria, BC V8P 2H8
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