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Kantara FIWG Teleconference 

Date and Time

  • Date: 07, February, 2013
  • Time: 13:00 PT |16:00 ET


  • John Bradley, Ping Identity
  • Keith Uber, (Ubisecure)
  • Scott Cantor, Internet 2
  • Rainer Hoerbe, KisMed Austria
  • Matt Tebo, Protiviti
  • Colin Wallis, Internal Affairs Dept, NZ Government
  • Jordan Packham, Protiviti
  • Andrew Hughes (staff)



  1. Administrative - roll call :  Minutes from Jan 10 ;Election of Officers
  2. FEDLab SAML tests update
  3. UK Gov Profile
  4. eGov 2 Profile 
  5. SAML 2 Int Profile (Profile updates,  Wiki page)
  6. Kantara, OIX and other meta-data aggregator projects.
  7. Your agenda items


1. Administrative - roll call


  • Non Quorate call (noting that voting members (Anil J, Mary R, Hank M) with persistent non attendance will be dropped)
  • Jan 10 Minutes: Moved Rainer, Seconded Nate
  • Nate and Alan nominated as Co-Chairs, John B nominated as Chair. Action: John to talk to Heather to put call for vote
2. FEDLab SAML test harness update - -
  • RH worked with Roland to update Test Harness doc (back end).
  • RH worked with Andreas on the GUI front end management tool
 3. Federated Interop Patterns

The group discussed RH's Fed Interop patterns doc submitted and had got considerable comment:

Matt: Need a Privacy Layer

Keith: Need a Attribute Authority/Provider (in SAML Attribute Query) Actor as a sub set of IdP actor

Matt: Or is it FO-FO? (John) It is generically called Attribute Provider rather than Attribute Authority.

?: What about a Consent Service Provider as an additional Actor?

Keith: Add Discovery Service as a new Actor

Rainer: Rename Legal to Legal and Contractual Layer for clarity

4.  Kantara, OIX and other meta-data aggregator projects

Discussion: JB meeting Leif re the possible ISOC and R&E peering between OIX and Kantara aggregators. Ping has a pilot in play for SPs using Ping Federate clients (repeated from last call..?). The pilot is in 2 Parts: First, getting meta data into same IdP, and Second, how to manage the ...accumulation?... (notes indecipherable).. of 3rd parties' attributes as federations grow. Non R&E feds wil have to use R&E methods before long.

7. Your Agenda items

None raised..and no more call time left.

Next Meeting

  • Date: Thurs 24th, January, 2013
  • Time: 13:00 PT | 16:00 ET | (Time Chart)
  • Dial-In: +1-218-862-7200
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