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Information Sharing GROUP Teleconference

Date and Time

  • Date: 14 Feb 2011
  • Time: 7am HST | 9 PST | 12 EST | 5pm UK
  • Please join my meeting via GoToMeeting
  • Join the conference call:
    • Skype: +9900827042954214
    • US Dial-In: +1-201-793-9022
    • UK Dial-In: +44 (0) 8454018081
    • Room Code: 2954214
    • GoToMeeting ID: 844-771-298

Attendees

  • Joe Andrieu
  • Judi Clark
  • Iain Henderson
  • Mark Lizar
  • Luk Vervenne

Apologies

  •  none received

Agenda

  1. Attendance
  2. Approval of Prior Minutes
  3. Prior Action Item Review
  4. New Business
  5. Standard Information Sharing Agreements
  6. Action Item Review

Minutes

1. Attendance

We noted that 4 people on the call were voting members and that the group met quorum on this call.

2. Motions
  1. Judi moved, unanimous consent to ratify Feb 7 minutes.
3. Prior Action Item Review
  • Joe: add notes to incorporate Trust Index Outputs into mindmap flowchart, then will post an update to wiki - to do
  • Joe: set up conversation with Doc, Iain, including IIW & VRM - done, may meet on Sunday before IIW, push Std Agreement forward. Monday: VRM, focus on API for R-Button. Desire for larger convergence when ready. Also how we might fit into Personal Data Ecosystem (Kaliya & Drummond): stay in conversation.
  • Iain: set up a call in February with Joe and Bill - in progress, Bill sent his 20 page workflow about Real Estate,
  • Iain: draft scenario for electoral role for UMA - in progress
  • Iain: talk with Joni/Kantara about high level plan for funding - in progress
  • Judi: contact Scott David about meeting with us, possibly Michael Froomkin, once we have our overview together (pending)
3. New Business
  •  ProjectVRM discussion about tech (Doc) and Legislation (Mary), we're third element in that discussion.
  • Tom Smedinhoff posted the relevant doc (PDF) on P3 wiki
5. Information Sharing Agreements

Link to our collaborative mindmap diagram - let us know if you'd like to participate

From Judi's email:

  1. Applicable law is based on NDA work, explicit to transaction.
  2. Need to specify parties, esp when we get into trust framework, DNS.
  3. Luk re European ecosystem framework: When companies register in an ecosystem, they list what data is required. Then is within individual level to determine willingness to operate under those terms. Trust negotiation process. Ecosystem represents user, with room for user negotiation. US works differently now; no blanket trust. Ecosystem is like first barrier, providers can only ask for needed data. Joe: service providers may make first offer. Judi: ecosystem gives context to first offer. Luk: service provider needs certain data to provide services. Joe: flow that we're looking at is: users willing to do business under master agreement, services are available under that agreement. Luk: like a best practice service. Joe: our master agreement has no data attached to it.
  4. Consideration: what does each party get, and what do they give? Audit trail, monitoring will help establish, work with trust framework.
  5. intent to be bound: shown by being active part of the framework, using contracts with others. Luk: contractual agreement, digital signatures (end users have software that can digitally sign), authentication of users. Depending on type of services, different level of authentication (they have 4 levels). Joe: we can use identity framework for specific levels of assurance (we're outsourcing this).
  6. "ownership" of data is a bad model (from law perspective), it's about use and control. Access (can view) and usage (can use) are different concepts re: who gets to see what, when, why. Some data is available on service request, other granted on a more permanent basis (e.g., to employer for as long as you work with them).

Is about bootstrapping from this agreement, not from "ownership" perspective. Luk: example: diploma is issued by school, we have rights to disclose.

Mindmap updated to reflect this discussion. Master Agreement is helping to define our ecosystem.

6. Action Items Review
  • Joe: add notes to incorporate Trust Index Outputs into mindmap flowchart, then will post an update to wiki - to do
  • Joe to send email intro between Judi and Bill re Real Estate workflow
  • Iain: set up a call in February with Joe and Bill - in progress, Bill sent his 20 page workflow about Real Estate,
  • Iain: draft scenario for electoral role for UMA - in progress
  • Iain: talk with Joni/Kantara about high level plan for funding - in progress
  • Judi: contact Scott David about meeting with us, possibly Michael Froomkin, once we have our overview together (pending)
  • Judi: will note to ProjectVRM list that we're the third part, can contractually bind data to uses

Next Regular Meeting

21 February 2011 - 90 minutes
7am Hawaii, 9am Pacific, Midday Eastern, 5pm UK
Skype: +9900827042954214
US Dial-In: +1-201-793-9022
UK Dial-In: +44 (0) 8454018081
Room Code: 2954214

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