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Kantara Initiative Identity Assurance WG Teleconference


Date and Time


  1. Administration:
    1. Roll Call
    2. Agenda Confirmation
    3. Minutes Approval: 
    4. Action Item Review
    5. Organization Updates - Director's Corner
    6. Staff reports and updates
    7. LC reports and updates
    8. Call for Tweet-worthy items to feed (@KantaraNews or #kantara)
  2. Discussion
    1. Update on CCICADA R&D Program (Ruth)
    2. Kantara workgroup funding requests (Ken)
    3. Report on meeting between GSA/FICAM and trust framework representatives (Scott)
    4. CSP inquiry about an IAF criteria (Russ)
    5. Update on KIAF-1401 SAC Spreadsheet (Ken)
  3. AOB
  4. Adjourn


Link to IAWG Roster

As of 2015-11-05, quorum is 5 of 9


Meeting achieved quorum (thirty minutes into the meeting, after discussions had begun)




  •  Scott Shorter (S)
  • Lee Aber
  • Richard Wilsher
  • Paul Caskey
  • Ken Dagg (C)


  •  Russ Weiser


  •  Ruth Puente


  • Andrew Hughes (VC)

Notes & Minutes


Minutes Approval (no quorum at this point in call, minutes approval deferred).


Topic A)
Ruth: R&D program is Kantara Initiative + Rutgers. Funded by DHS. CCICADA partnership called it at that time. At the beginning of January, Kantara started to coordinate on managing the project and proposals to apply for program funding. Started last week talking with DHS, Kantara staff and Rutgers. Currently one proposal on the table, documentation reviewed by DHS, comments to improve it. Two other candidates interested in applying for funding. The idea to fund solutions for identity management that can come to the market. They would provide the funds and guidance to help with commercialization. They ask candidates to provide technology, with the criteria specified by DARPA study. Focus on the transition phase of creating a successful technology that can be brought to market. Phase one is availability, from proposal to development of the product (100K), executing phase (12months, 200K), possibility of matching funds from non governmental organizations. The transition phase is the most critical (12 months, 200k).

Deployment in an operational environment, formation of a company to commercialize and develop technology. Identified R&D needs in six topic areas. Asking for projects in that area.

Ruth will send the details to the list, will send application process, what organizations can apply, and what they can do.

Topic C)
Dr. Alterman made some comments, sent to Ruth via ARB mailing list. Action Item for Ruth to share Peter Alterman's comments, 'the discussion for the need for FICAM to have a charter was more about the need for FICAM and their office'. Russ agrees fully.

RGW opines that FICAM need to define the process.

Topic D)
Russ speaks to the issue of AL2_ID_RPV#020 evidence checks. Verizon collects financial account number. Account number collected is validated.

RGW contends that KBA is required at AL2. The idea of the Kantara SAC are broader more generic criteria which are modeled on 800-63 but not slaves to it. Understand why there could be good reason to relax Kantara criteria if they don't make sense or pose unnecessary or unreasonable requirements.

The proposed change would be that the SAC items C) is present when verifying financial account number.

Ken suggests we take a request for a change of phrasing, to get an opinion and get a memory for why the discrepancy.

Ken suggests that we propose the change to all members. May take some time to get the change out there since it's a major.

Future topic for Verizon's phone check steps, aiming for March.

[Ken Dagg joined, back up to those topics.]
Topic B) Ken reports there will be a BOT meeting, next Weds, funding requests will be put forward then, will possibly make a decision at that time.

Ken reports on the LC call, no quorum, no workgroup updates, no update on new executive

Topic E) folks should look at the spreadsheet. Number scheme was based on the line number from the SAC. Found several sub criteria that were omitted at levels 2 and 3 and should not have been.



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  • Date: Thursday, 2016-02-11
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