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Kantara Initiative Identity Assurance WG Teleconference



Date and Time


  1. Administration:
    1. Roll Call
    2. Agenda Confirmation
    3. Minutes approval: DRAFT IAWG Meeting Minutes 2015-02-12
    4. Action Item Review
    5. Staff reports and updates
    6. Assurance Review Board (ARB) and Leadership Council (LC) reports and updates
    7. Call for Tweet-worthy items to feed (@KantaraNews or #kantara)
  2. Discussion
    1. Results of affiliations survey

    2. Laws of Relationships paper (Laws of Relationships v5)

  3. AOB
  4. Adjourn


Link to IAWG Roster

As of 2015-01-22, quorum is 6 of 11

Use the Info box below to record the meeting quorum status

Meeting achieved quorum


  • Andrew Hughes (VC)
  • Scott Shorter (S)
  • Richard Wilsher
  • Devin Kusek
  • Lee Aber
  • Ken Dagg 
  • Cathy Tilton


  • Angela Rey


  •  Joni Brennan


  • Björn Sjöholm
  • None



Notes & Minutes


Minutes Approval

DRAFT IAWG Meeting Minutes 2015-02-12

Motion to approve minutes of 2015-02-12: Richard Wilsher
Seconded: Andrew Hughes
Motion Carried | Carried with amendments | Defeated

Action Item Review

See the Action Items Log wiki page

Staff Updates

Working on a number of items:

  • Redesigning some messaging around Kantara Initiative, officers of Board of Trustees and Leadership Council is working on this.  BOT and LC will review and input with the goal of completing 2015 messaging for Kantara.
  • Policies were being voted on, that is still going forward.  BOT did not meet this week, will vote next week.
  • Recent posting of the next round of NSTIC pilot opportunities, potential area for discussion, looking to see what organizations may be interested in pursuing the NSTIC space.
  • Health IAWG work group is having some staff changes coming up.


Leadership Council (LC) Updates
  • No ARB meeting last week
  • LC meets next week
Participant updates


Results of the Affiliation Survey

Not a lot of results to the survey as of yet.  Did not achieve the intended outcome.  We have reach out to FICAM, UK IDAP, ANSI NASPO, IDESG, and others.  Should we try to broaden the map - some other organizations are Kantara members.  We don't go to the state/province level, or reach to the authoritative bodies.

Goal is to determine if we have members that are present in other forums.

Angela Rey inquires how strong the relationship needs to be, she serves on some Federal committees with identity assurance issues.  E.g. her gackground in federal financial management but identity is an aspect there.

Andrew responds that if there is a mutual benefit to the groups to interact then there should be a relationship.  Identity assurance, and health identity assurance working groups, no financial identity working group.  Joni notes that financial institutions have stepped back from identity around 2012 and that has been a broad pattern.

Ken notes that the know your customer regulation is a prime driver of the Canadian financial institution. If this is the same in the US market then an understanding of what Kantara stands for would be of interest to the financial institutions in the US.  Not the prime mandate but it is key to making it successful.

Angela mentions that the Federal Reserve Board has a 10 year plan and strategy to improve identity assurance for banks.  (Here is the link to that report)

Ken responds that there is a similar Canadian Payments System Review (link). If they have need for identity and authentication then Kantara and IAWG should understand those needs and if our solution doesn't meet those needs then we should be evolving the solution.

Richard mentions that there are two activities being discussed - alignment with other approaches, and proselytizing.

Andrew will continue to work on this.

RGW proposes that the most relevant items are:

  • Keeping on top of ISO 29003 (which we can do through liaison relationship or through CS1)
  • UK Scheme - we have some alignment with ongoing
  • Ken provides connection to Canada

Joni mentions we have a channel to comment on OECD also, we can get in front of other nations and share information.  Joni suggests following where there's current activity ("going where the puck is") - there's an operational program in the US and good activity in Canada, relationship with UK gov. Look for a North American collective of pilots and IAF work.

Laws of Relationships document

Discussion of Laws of Relationships v5 which was shared with the list on 2/18.  This is a Kantara Initiative draft report from the identity relationship management working group. Currently being reviewed by the Leadership Council to be approved as a Kantara report.  Comments on the document are due to Ian Glazer.


  1. Andrew mentions that Jeremy Grant, the director of the national program office for NSTIC, is leaving NIST in April.  Mike Garcia is the acting successor.
  2. Ken checked with the e-gov working group. Keith Uber (question) is recovering from a slipped disc. First meeting will be the first Monday in March.

Carry-forward Items





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