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Kantara Initiative Identity Assurance WG Teleconference


DRAFT Meeting Minutes - IAWG approval required


Date and Time


  1. Administration:
    1. Roll Call
    2. Agenda Confirmation
    3. Minutes approval: IAWG Meeting Minutes 2014-09-04
    4. Action Item Review
    5. Staff reports and updates
    6. LC reports and updates
    7. Call for Tweet-worthy items to feed (@KantaraNews or #kantara)
  2. Discussion
    1. Discussion of the US/FICAM Profile (draft)
    2. Discussion on the IAWG Service Provider document (attached below)
    3. Discussion on ARB asked IAWG to look at ways to harmonize/map component service assessments across TFPs, i.e., SAFE and Kantara specifically
  3. AOB
  4. Adjourn


Link to IAWG Roster

As of 2014 May 6, quorum is 7 of 12


Meeting achieved quorum


  • Rich Furr ( C)
  • Andrew Hughes (S)
  • Devin Kusek
  • Adam Madlin
  • Scott Shorter
  • Ken Dagg
  • Cathy Tilton
  • Bill Braithwaite


  • Pete Palmer




  • None



Notes & Minutes


Minutes Approval

IAWG Meeting Minutes 2014-09-04

Motion to approve minutes of 2014-09-04: Adam Madlin
Seconded: Scott Shorter
Discussion: None
Motion Carried 


FICAM US Profile
  • Andrew reports that he has not started the profile work yet. 
  • Adam volunteered to help with the work
  • Scott offered review cycles if the material is ready before next meeting
Service Provider invitations to participate
  • Original discussion was around why there's only one Component Provider - material is drafted to invite them to participate more
  • Equifax is interested in pursuing Kantara approval; 
  • 2 other significant players in the IDPV space have indicated that they cannot make the business case to pursue Kantara approval
  • Question: what do we want to do with this?
  • Comment: won't hurt to approach others in the marketplace - many others are out there who might be interested.
  • MOTION: Take the draft Component Service invitation letter, allow 1 more week for final review, then proceed to distribute to appropriate parties: Andrew. 
  • Second: Scott Shorter
  • Discussion: The 'appropriate parties' are those identified previously - the recipients of the letter.
  • Motion carried.
ARB Request
  • Rich raised the issue of Cross-Program recognition of Service Providers
  • The current FICAM TFPAP v2 states that a CSP approved by one TFP cannot be recognized as approved by a different TFP. At AL3 this means SAFEBioPharma and Kantara.
    • ARB believes that its a direct contradiction of the principles and basis for FICAM
    • SAFE BioPharma intends to raise this issue with FICAM TFS
  • ARB has asked for a mapping between SAFE BioPharma and Kantara to determine if they are in fact interoperable
    • SAFE believes that due to the fact that both Frameworks are approved by FICAM TFS, by definition the Frameworks are already comparable and interoperable. Therefore they do not wish to participate in such a mapping
  • Question: do we know why that clause is there currently?
    • Nobody knows the reason 
  • Rich to ensure that Joni and Peter Alterman coordinate their comments


Ken Dagg noted that the Attributes in Motion WG will be disbanded. 

  • Are there any deliverables that IAWG should take on?
  • Pete Palmer reported that AIM will merge into the Identity Relationship Management WG

Adam Madlin asked:

  • What is the status of the request from FICAM TFS related to Attributes characteristics?
  • A: This would have sat with the AIM WG - unsure if there has been progress.

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