[KI-LC] Telecon Reminder - February 3 at 17:00 UTC
Cahill, Conor P
conor.p.cahill at intel.com
Wed Feb 3 10:50:31 EST 2010
I think that in-kind donations of materials/sponsorship (e.g. paying for a conference booth) and such is fine.
I have a real problem when cash is provided to a Kantara entity and that same cash does not go through our treasurer. I believe that many others had similar concerns.
Conor
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From: lc-bounces at kantarainitiative.org [mailto:lc-bounces at kantarainitiative.org] On Behalf Of Roger Sullivan
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To: joe at switchbook.com; Bob Pinheiro
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Subject: Re: [KI-LC] Telecon Reminder - February 3 at 17:00 UTC
I would encourage this discussion to flesh out the policies - especially with regard to (in)appropriate solicitation and application of funds received.
This type of project/program funding was explicitly talked about during the formation of Kantara. It was not resolved at that time, but simply tabled for later. I'm glad that 'later' is now.
Regards,
Roger S.
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From: Joe Andrieu [mailto:joe at switchbook.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 10:32 AM
To: Bob Pinheiro
Cc: lc at kantarainitiative.org
Subject: Re: [KI-LC] Telecon Reminder - February 3 at 17:00 UTC
Bob,
I asked about this at the DIDW meetings and was told quite explicitly
that there is no reason a WG can't raise funds, either from activities
or through sponsorship.
However, I agree it would be good to have some guidance and policy as to
how that would work and what kinds of fundraising are not appropriate
and how one would seek approval if the appropriateness is in question.
-j
On 2/3/2010 6:57 AM, Bob Pinheiro wrote:
> AOB: I'd like to put on the table for discussion the issue of funding
> for individual WGs/DGs. Right now, each WG/DG must depend on the
> Kantara organization for funding. Yet the amount of funding available
> to a given WG/DG is subject to a number of constraints, among those
> being: (a) overall availability of funds, (b) requirement that the work
> must be done by volunteer participants, unless no volunteers are
> available and the work is deemed by the LC/BoT to be of sufficient
> importance/priority to merit funding. Part of the issue here is that
> volunteer participants will only be able to contribute their time and
> expertise if their employer deems it in the employer's interest to do
> so. Of course there are instances where dedicated volunteers may
> contribute their own time to WG activities, but that is the exception
> rather than the rule. It is also true that many participants who join
> the various WGs do so with the intent of being observers rather than
> active participants.
>
> The end result is that the activities that can be realistically pursued
> by WGs/DGs are limited by the availability of volunteer participants as
> well as limitations on funding to seek other resources to help do the
> work This situation will likely become more acute as the number of
> WGs/DG increases.
>
> I believe that WGs/DGs ought to be able to seek funding for their
> activities directly from Kantara members, or other organizations outside
> of Kantara (including governmental entities), and that this funding
> should be earmarked specifically for the WG/DG to be spent as deemed
> appropriate by the Chair, with approval from the funders. I'm not aware
> that Kantara presently has a policy to allow this to happen. I'm
> proposing that such a policy be developed.
>
> Now I'm not under any illusions here that the existence of such a policy
> would suddenly result in funds being available to the Consumer Identity
> WG. There is still the issue of going out and soliciting funding,
> demonstrating to potential funders the value of the proposed work, as
> well as the challenge of demonstrating why the work should be done under
> the Kantara umbrella. And of course the potential funders themselves
> will have their own budget constraints.
>
> But I'd like to see Kantara come up with a policy on this. So I'm bring
> up this issue now, and proposing that the LC recommend to the BoT that
> it develop a policy on WG/DG funding from non-Kantara sources. This may
> be a topic that should be more fully discussed at the F2F meeting in March.
>
> Bob
>
> ---------------------------
> Bob Pinheiro
> Chair, Consumer Identity WG
> 908-654-1939
> kantara at bobpinheiro.com
> www.bobpinheiro.com
>
>
>
> On 2/2/2010 7:16 PM, J. Trent Adams wrote:
>> All -
>>
>> As a reminder, we have our Leadership Council call tomorrow:
>>
>> * Date: Wednesday, February 3, 2010
>> * Time: 9am PST | 12pm EST | 17:00 UTC [1]
>> * Teleconference Options:
>> o Skype: +9900827043671716
>> o US Dial-In: +1-201-793-9022 | Room Code: 3671716
>>
>> I've updated the wiki with this week's dynamic agenda:
>>
>> http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/x/bAFyAg
>>
>> As you'll notice, this week's WG update will be on eGov presented by Colin.
>>
>> Here's the agenda snapshot:
>>
>> 1. Roll Call for Quorum Determination
>> 2. Approval of prior meeting minutes
>> a. Review: Leadership Council Teleconference - 2010-01-20 [2]
>> 3. Announce: Executive Director Transition Plan
>> 4. Proposed WG: Interoperability Work Group (IOPWG)
>> a. Review: IOPWG Charter [3]
>> b. Discuss& set date for vote
>> 5. Discuss: LC Support for WG/DG Evangelism
>> a. Review:
>> http://kantarainitiative.org/pipermail/lc/2010-January/000796.html
>> b. Review:
>> http://kantarainitiative.org/pipermail/lc/2010-January/000799.html
>> 6. Update: Kantara Conference - Oregon- March 9-11, 2010
>> a. Preliminary LC Attendance
>> b. Agenda items fleshed out deadline was Feb. 1 [4]
>> c. Early bird registration ends Feb. 12 [5]
>> d. Sleeping room block deadline at Springhill Suites - Feb. 9 [6]
>> 7. AOB
>> 8. WG/DG Update: eGov WG (Colin)
>>
>> See you then.
>>
>> - Trent
>>
>> [1] Time Chart:
>> http://timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=2&day=3&year=2010&hour=17&min=0&sec=0&p1=0&sort=2
>> [2]
>> http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/LC/Leadership+Council+Teleconference+-+2010-01-20
>> [3]http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/iopwg/Charter
>> [4]
>> http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/GI/Kantara+Initiative+Conferences
>> [5]http://www.regonline.com/kantara_initiative_conference
>> [6]
>> http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/download/attachments/37750717/Kantara+Group+Hotel+Rate+Flyer+March+2010.pdf
>>
>>
>
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